Tape recovery needs old software

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  1. Kao

    Kao Gutsy Member

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    I'm trying to recover a game dev's files from some old Travan 8GB tapes and it's not been a great experience so far. Apparently having the exact right old drive and an old PC that the drive will work in isn't enough. It has to be running the version of windows used when the tapes were made, as well.

    I can understand why this project hasn't moved in years, but it's also kind of a shame. I think these tapes were first news when I joined at the end of 2010 and there's still been no movement 7 years on!
     
  2. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator Staff Member

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    There's lots that can be done though, it just requires the time to do it. The tapes Ive dealt with are newer, and easy enough to get data off of, but even that required some work. And data is only part of it in my case, as I really want to come up with the best method of archiving the tape image itself, and not just the data from it. With @ASSEMbler looking for Backup Exec 12.5 or older, Im more than capable of that sort of thing, as I spent some time tracking down Backup Exec versions just in case, and have some experience now. His being old doesn't mean it would be a walk in the park hah. Still not happy with the format Im recovering to though.

    The bigger concern is as time goes on, they aren't going to be getting any better, especially since sticky tapes are an issue too. Im holding off on baking or attempting any fix on those those with issues, but Im concerned even with the tapes that I have that are just over 10 years old in some cases.

    I think I know which tapes you're working on too Kao...
     
  3. retro

    retro Moderator Staff Member

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    Even that is an over-simplification. And not necessarily.

    The tapes have to be readable - no physical damage. As Borman said, just like with video and audio tapes, there could be sticky shed syndrome, which needs baking and you really need to know what you're doing. There may be other special preservation issues - such as mouldy tape, and you don't want to be releasing spores into the air you breathe. You have to have the right software to read the archive. If they're incremental, you need all the tapes. You need to know any passwords used... and what specific methods were used, too. You have to remember it's going to be a server image rather than a stand-alone machine, in most cases.
     
  4. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka Staff Member

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    what are we stuck at now? has the proper software been found?
     
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  5. retro

    retro Moderator Staff Member

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    The owner of the tapes disassociating himself with the site? ;)
     
  6. Mattetch

    Mattetch rebuilding collection one cartridge at a time

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    i have done something similar in the past to recover old data from ages ago that was stored on old travan 320mb tapes, i used old software for the colorado tape back up device in os/2 wrap 4 and it didn't care about what system it was recorded on and dumped it no issue, it took ages to do because the i/o that handled the tape device was slow as a snail going up hill.

    let me look around and see what i can find, maybe i will find out something of interest that might help this ages long attempt at recovery.
     
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  7. Kao

    Kao Gutsy Member

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    That would be helpful to me as well, @Mattetch, since I'm currently trying to get some Travan 8GB tapes archived. Both Win98 and WinXP claim the tapes haven't been initialized, but I refuse to believe the data is corrupt/lost. I'm going to try again on Win2000 which I believe is the platform the tapes were originally archived on.
     
  8. Mattetch

    Mattetch rebuilding collection one cartridge at a time

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    and that's exactly what i was thinking, i would go as far to try to use a dos based suite of compatible software that handles tape backup tasks/ archiving.
    im setting up my old towers hdds this weekend, from there i will attempt to locate the older software i have stashed away.
     
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