SEGA Saturn control pads -> Neo Geo AES adapter.

Discussion in 'Neo Geo Discussion' started by NinSEGA2, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. NinSEGA2

    NinSEGA2 Spirited Member

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    Does such an animal exist?
     
  2. alphagamer

    alphagamer What is this? *BRRZZ*.. Ouch!

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    You could hack some pads up....[​IMG]
     
  3. NinSEGA2

    NinSEGA2 Spirited Member

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    I could, but I am terrible at soldering and I don't like the thought of using shittacular tin/lead components on a perfectly fine product.
     
  4. Kaicer

    Kaicer Site Supporter 2014

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    where i can find the pinout to do the mod on the saturn controller.
     
  5. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    I have no idea why people have so much trouble finding this:

    http://www.godlikecontrols.com/

    this includes myself it took some peoople at shmups forum to point that site out for me.
    It will give you a pcb that can convert saturn pins to standard jamma/neo geo pins. You need to solder the connectors.
     
  6. NinSEGA2

    NinSEGA2 Spirited Member

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    Okay, but do they sell SEGA Saturn control pad -> Neo Geo AES adapters? I couldn't find it on their site...
     
  7. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    scratch that, seems alot of effort.

    this seems alot easier

    http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=2350.0

    may help people who want to diy it

    just remove the chip and solder the wires, simples.

    this may also help

    http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=controls:neo_geo_controller
     
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  8. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    With the FGW adapter you don't need to destroy the controller and it can fit on the sega saturn again.
     
  9. NinSEGA2

    NinSEGA2 Spirited Member

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    Can I also use it to go SEGA Saturn control pad -> SEGA Genesis?
     
  10. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    i suppose this is true

    but you could also keep chip and the cord to put back in when ever.

    either way both valid options scratch my scratch that it wasn't aimed at you i edited my post but forgot to remove the quote :)
     
  11. Kaicer

    Kaicer Site Supporter 2014

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    removing the chip and the cable is not exactly destroying the controller, I want to do it but with an after market controller not an original one.
     
  12. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    i've just been on ebay n nabbed a 3rd party megadrive controller i plan to use for this. also got a few 3rd party saturn controllers here already but they all have the black blob instead of a chip so wouldnt be as clean of a job

    a snes controller should also work nicely. one of them SN propads the clear plastic ones would look nice too
     
  13. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Synrgy do you have the pinout on the chip?
    It would help a lot to know which pins are GND and which button does what.
     
  14. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    i do not, but they are easily traced from the contact points on the controller board, so it's not much of an issue

    i suppose another option would be to leave the chip in place and tap into the traces closer to the contact points for each button
     
  15. NinSEGA2

    NinSEGA2 Spirited Member

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    Okay, so would any of you guys be willing to construct an FGW for me that does Saturn control pads -> Genesis (as well as another one that does Saturn control pads -> Neo Geo AES)? I'll pay parts+labor+shipping through PayPal.
     
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  16. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    So ground is the forth pin from the upper pin to down?
     
  17. NinSEGA2

    NinSEGA2 Spirited Member

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    On what? Genesis or Neo Geo?
     
  18. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    in relation to the pictures in the thread? i think all the buttons share a common ground so again should be easy to trace. i'll put up pictures when i do mine i'm waiting on it to arrive.

    i'll also put up pictures of the saturn PCBs and label them. just for ease of reference, i'll dig through my parts box and see if i have any

    edit: had a few megadrive/sms pad pcbs but all 3rd party

    anyway a opened up a saturn controller, seems theres a few different models mine is a MK-80313 with a surfface mount chip 315-5789A

    heres a pinout i found while googling the controller chip although you can clearly see where all the traces go here it is.



    [TABLE="class: grid, width: 500, align: center"]
    [TR]
    [TD]Pin on chip
    [/TD]
    [TD]Button/Function
    [/TD]
    [TD]Cord wire connector colour and number
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]1
    [/TD]
    [TD]Down
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]2
    [/TD]
    [TD]LEFT
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]3
    [/TD]
    [TD]UP
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]4
    [/TD]
    [TD]RIGHT
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]5
    [/TD]
    [TD]L
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]6
    [/TD]
    [TD]Y
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]7
    [/TD]
    [TD]R
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]8
    [/TD]
    [TD]Z
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]9
    [/TD]
    [TD]C
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]10
    [/TD]
    [TD]B
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]11
    [/TD]
    [TD]A
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]12
    [/TD]
    [TD]GND
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]13
    [/TD]
    [TD]X
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]14
    [/TD]
    [TD]START
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]15
    [/TD]
    [TD]N/C
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]16
    [/TD]
    [TD]N/C
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]17
    [/TD]
    [TD]?
    [/TD]
    [TD]BLACK, 2
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]18
    [/TD]
    [TD]?
    [/TD]
    [TD]GREEN, 3
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]19
    [/TD]
    [TD]?
    [/TD]
    [TD]GREY, 6
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]20
    [/TD]
    [TD]?
    [/TD]
    [TD]YELLOW, 7
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]21
    [/TD]
    [TD]N/C
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]22
    [/TD]
    [TD]?
    [/TD]
    [TD]ORANGE, 8
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]23
    [/TD]
    [TD]?
    [/TD]
    [TD]RED, 9
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]24
    [/TD]
    [TD]VCC
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]


    [TABLE="class: grid, width: 500, align: center"]
    [TR]
    [TD]CORD CONNECTOR NUMBER
    [/TD]
    [TD]WIRE COLOUR
    [/TD]
    [TD]PIN ON CHIP/FUNCTION
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]1
    [/TD]
    [TD]WHITE
    [/TD]
    [TD]GND
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]2
    [/TD]
    [TD]BLACK
    [/TD]
    [TD]17
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]3
    [/TD]
    [TD]GREEN
    [/TD]
    [TD]18
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]4
    [/TD]
    [TD]BLUE
    [/TD]
    [TD]VCC (24?)
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]5
    [/TD]
    [TD]BROWN
    [/TD]
    [TD]VCC (24?)
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]6
    [/TD]
    [TD]GREY
    [/TD]
    [TD]19
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]7
    [/TD]
    [TD]YELLOW
    [/TD]
    [TD]20
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]8
    [/TD]
    [TD]ORANGE
    [/TD]
    [TD]22
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]9
    [/TD]
    [TD]RED
    [/TD]
    [TD]23
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]



    this is copied from a japanese website, im not sure how accurate this is as i have not removed the chip but looks ok.

    so the Neo Geo being arcade and jamma based(MVS) it's dumb and doesnt require a controller chip, just the buttons to make contact

    should be easy to wire up common ground and then wires to the buttons you want. up down left right a b c d start and select like you would wire up an arcade control panel.
     
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  19. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Yeah, having this kind of info makes the work 100% easier.

    I think I'll jump the boat and also do this mod :))
     
  20. duo_r

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    What is recommended button layout for NEO on a Saturn controller?
     

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