Original Xbox to SNES adapter?

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  1. RandySlim76

    RandySlim76 Active Member

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    Can anyone here make an adapter from an original Xbox male plug to a SNES female?

    I want to be able to attach a SNES Bluetooth adapter from 8bitdo.

    Can I purchase these or someone please show me how to make them. Thanks guys. :)
     
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    This USB RetroPad Adapter kit might work for you, if the price tag doesn't make you too uncomfortable
    http://www.brunofreitas.com/node/41

    I need to look at that thing again and see if I'd use it myself - but $15 per cable adapter would require some serious thinking...

    Edit - Personal thoughts: I also wonder how difficult it would be to construct a SNES to Xbox cable adapter, but I presume there would be significant timing issues introduced between the interfaces. Wouldn't it be great if that wasn't the case though? Maybe as easy as building Xbox to USB memory card dongles?
     
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    RandySlim76 Active Member

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    If I could get one in the US I would but the shopping almost cost as much as the product.
    I need to buy two of the adapters and two of the Bluetooth assisters them two of the 8bitdo SNES Bluetooth controllers. So if I could figure out how to just wire up an adapter from just the Xbox plug to the female plug of a SNES I would be set. Kade which is Bruno side company offered the miniconsole+ too but they are way way behind in making them. I emailed Kevin at Kade and he seems busy also.
    If you have any other ideas please get back with me. Thanks.
     
  4. PrimordialHelios

    PrimordialHelios Bad Game Specialist

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    Xbox cables are just modified USB 1 connectors. slightly different pinout, but the exact same pins. I'm sure with something like an arduino or a teensy you wouldn't have any issues at all. I mean, there are tutorials on hacking a SNES controller to USB, so the timing probably wouldn't be that bad.
     
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    Would the adapters timings be less than say a Xbox wireless controller? Logitech or etc?
     
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    PrimordialHelios Bad Game Specialist

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    I know *nothing* about how controllers work, but I would assume so. Again, prefacing this with the fact that I don't know anything. The first thing that comes into mind would be wiring the xbox controller up to a teensy, wiring the teensy to a male SNES connector, and then figuring out what data needs to be sent through the SNES connector.

    It would probably be pretty difficult unless you can find some documentation from Mayflash or something. As for input lag you should be fine. Bluetooth has a lag of at least 100ms, and that's pretty high but most people don't notice. It *should* be doable, but I'm not sure it's worth all the trouble.

    Out of curiosity, why do you want an xbox controller specifically?
     
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    RandySlim76 Active Member

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    I want to use 8bitdo SNES controllers on my Xbox's. I want them to play older emulation games from 12' to 14' away with better signal than the old wireless controllers. :)
     
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    PrimordialHelios Bad Game Specialist

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    OHHHHHHH I got that the wrong way around lol. There are tons of SNES to USB adapters (I personally recommend anything from Mayflash, really nice quality), and you can get a cable to use USB devices with an xbox.

    Mayflash adapter

    USB converter for an xbox. I can personally vouche for this one, I used it to softmod my xbox.

    Sorry for the confusion! :p
     
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    I thought the Xbox didn't have the drivers for a SNES controller
     
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    PrimordialHelios Bad Game Specialist

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    It's not, it's a USB controller. I'm just making the (very large) assumption that the mayflash adapter would be compatible with the xbox, it might not be.

    You could also just get a controller extension cable.
     
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    I have not tried it but from everyone I've talked to (allot of sites and people) say the Xbox requires drivers that won't support any USB controller. If I'm wrong then please tell me cause that would be AWESOME!
     
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    I was hoping for someone to have figured out a way to wire it directly. If I order them from Bruno (even though he does amazing work) it's going to cost close to $100 before ordering a Bluetooth adapter and controller. For just one player it's looking like $175+ bucks. :(
     
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    PrimordialHelios Bad Game Specialist

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    I hadn't even thought about drivers :/

    Looks like an extension cable is your best bet, then.
     
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    I hate playing any retro game from the 8 bit to 16 bit era that requires 0 amount of pressure sensitive buttons. Like buttons that are all on and all off. Xbox buttons are pressure sensitive and sometimes don't respond when I tell Mario to jump and it's annoying. It's not just one controller it's all controllers. Weird thing is the better the controller the more the variables in the length of the pressure you have. Means my expensive Logitech wireless controllers are horrible at gaming retro. Sigh. :(
     
  16. zzattack

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    If you want to make this, you need to build an interface that polls the SNES controller and acts as an xbox controller.
    This SNES part is easy. It's a very simple and slow protocol that has been documented extensively.
    The same interface should act as an xbox controller on the USB side. There's enough information to be found about that, but it's definitely a lot more work. The USB descriptors should match those of the original xbox, you can simply use an original controller to obtain those. For the contents of the USB packets I would study the linux xpad driver.
     
  17. RandySlim76

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    So where do I find documents of someone making a snes converted for the original Xbox?
     
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    You're not gonna find anything that specific. But reading a SNES controller with a MCU and emulating a xbox controller with a MCU will certainly be written about
     
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    So you know of anyone still selling a converted SNES controller for an original Xbox? I have a friend's that makes pad hacks for Xbox controllers to attach arcade controls to it and I want to be able to show him anything I can find to make one for me.
    So when Bruno made the retro pad (which he said that I could connect to a 8bitdo SNES Bluetooth adapter) he made it to act exactly like a SNES controller. Not as a hack which wouldn't probably work with the 8bitdo Bluetooth adapter? Does that seem about the right conclusion?
     

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