Open Source Xbox Live?

Discussion in 'Xbox (Original console)' started by AlexRMC92, Feb 19, 2013.

  1. Xbox Loyalists

    Xbox Loyalists Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2017
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    4
    wasn't lukew still working on the relive
     
  2. IntelMiner

    IntelMiner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2012
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    23
    What does any of this have to do with the current thread topic?
     
  3. obcd

    obcd Rapidly Rising Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2009
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    32
    To bad they didn't brought back live on the xbone as it might have helped in understanding the authentication flow chain.
    As no servers exist anymore, you can't do packet sniffing to figure out how communication works. You can only try to "reverse engineer" the xbox part of things.
    The live thing is a static library with functions, linked to the xbe. It's described how to use those functions in the xdk documentation, but it's not described how those functions work and what they expect from the network server. We do have the revolt game and it's source code that was used to promote xbox live, so there is at least one example about how the library functions should be used and can result in online gaming. I believe grimdoomer not only managed to ping a server from within the debug dash, but also got the kerberos authentication working. Grim passed his code to kiwi who passed it to an unknow group that works below the radar. Whenever they work on it and if they are making progress is all speculation at the moment.
     
  4. CodeAsm

    CodeAsm ohci_write: Bad offset 30

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2010
    Messages:
    1,499
    Likes Received:
    175
    https://www.polygon.com/2013/4/4/41...es-source-code-for-jedi-knight-2-jedi-outcast
    The source isnt there anymore but can still be found on github for example. alto XDK code seems to be removed. Ive also heard that Halo2 server code has been leaked aswell. even without these, Grim told us that his work can be done, if you dig in the kernel yourself and figure out the keys used for the authentication. his trouble was mainly with keeping the session alive (QoS packets?) but maybe he solved that aswell. The biggest thing still was titleservers. with what I found and got, yeah, setting up a live server is probably doable, but getting games to work... another. I always asume a modded xbox helps alott more.
     
  5. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2005
    Messages:
    9,480
    Likes Received:
    1,572
    Yeah when they first uploaded the source code for Jedi Knight, it had certain code that they probably shouldnt have uploaded. So they pulled it and reuploaded it elsewhere. I might have the original upload, I cant remember.
     
    CodeAsm likes this.
  6. TerdFerguson

    TerdFerguson ls ~/

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2015
    Messages:
    650
    Likes Received:
    341
    as far as bringing games back, phantasy star onlinr server source is easily obtainable. most variations of the game have homebrew servers, so it'd be minimal effort to get that one game working compared to most
     
  7. Robert1997

    Robert1997 Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2017
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hey guys signed up just to comment on this thread.
     
  8. Robert1997

    Robert1997 Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2017
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Is there a discord server to stay tune for the Xbox Live revival project

    Edit: nvm found it
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2017
  9. Xbox Loyalists

    Xbox Loyalists Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2017
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    4
    where do i look for the specifics of the kernel code inside a xdk or deep within a regular xbox hdd
     
  10. CodeAsm

    CodeAsm ohci_write: Bad offset 30

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2010
    Messages:
    1,499
    Likes Received:
    175
    Depending on how legal you wanna try this. reverseengineering is what you could do. I believe Grim said he dint use sourcecode, so he must have monitored the network port, and written programs with a XDK to use kernel calls to authenticate. He probably explorer memory locations aswel, used kernel debugging in some way aswell I gues. there are tools availeble to view an xbox memory and manipulate it. He eventualy got the keys to use in his own written kerberos server. I dont fully understand it all but I know that I need to learn some debuggig/reverseengineering skills on the xbox to know my xboxes key, and write a server program for it.

    I actualy dont know if Grim used a XDK version or opensource tools.
     
    TerdFerguson and Xbox Loyalists like this.
  11. Leang

    Leang king solomon's Angkor Temple

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2017
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    1
    -removed- Thefallen93 count me in; I will happy to work as a team and bring this open source.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 13, 2017
    Anthony817 likes this.
  12. command_tab

    command_tab Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2017
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    That’s some awesome progress!

    It’s your project and you can certainly do what you wish, but I’m curious what your reasoning is for keeping the project closed source. Making it available would open the door for contributions from other developers and would ensure long-term availability of a self-hosted Xbox Live equivalent. If it’s just you running it, it may eventually end up in the same bucket as Microsoft’s abandoned service, with no one able to follow in your footsteps.

    Either way, thanks for working to keep the lights on :)

     
  13. Robert1997

    Robert1997 Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2017
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    You know about reverse engineering? Well cool how much money you have now if you wanna do that stuff and you might wanna contact fallen if you want your hands on the project
     
  14. Leang

    Leang king solomon's Angkor Temple

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2017
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    1
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 13, 2017
  15. KIWIDOGGIE

    KIWIDOGGIE Peppy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2008
    Messages:
    357
    Likes Received:
    15
    This project has been abandoned long ago.
     
    ToXZiN 1 likes this.
  16. Leang

    Leang king solomon's Angkor Temple

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2017
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    1
    Who looking forward bringing this project up? We have to team up and set a meeting.
     
  17. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2005
    Messages:
    9,480
    Likes Received:
    1,572
    Doing any sort of fundraiser is against the site rules. I have removed your link,
     
  18. Leang

    Leang king solomon's Angkor Temple

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2017
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    1
    How is it a fundraiser? Aliright does anyone want to buy my xbox eeprom reader/writer cable? I am trying to get a xbox debug kit.
     
  19. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2005
    Messages:
    9,480
    Likes Received:
    1,572
    There is a proper place and way to sell things. Asking for money so you can buy something is a fundraiser.
     
    CodeAsm likes this.
  20. Leang

    Leang king solomon's Angkor Temple

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2017
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    1
    I am surprised you didn't ban me for doing something wrong.
     

Share This Page