Need help identifying a Arcade PCB Board

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  1. ItsMeMario

    ItsMeMario Gutsy Member

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    Hi,

    got my hands on this and it will turn on, but no sound and nothing on the screen.
    2 player (shoot & jump) and a blue button with a yellow "W" on it in the middle. (?)

    machine.jpg


    It has 2 PCBs tied to each other.

    Main connector :

    1a.jpg

    2 player (Shoot and Jump) :

    2.jpg

    Top PCB :

    2a.jpg

    Lower PCB :

    3.jpg

    Power Supply :

    4.jpg
    6.jpg

    A tiny PCB connected to the main PCB : (?)

    5.jpg
    7.jpg

    Another tiny PCB connected to (?) with potentiometers :

    8.jpg

    Its running with "Deutsche Mark" and had a "TÜV label dated 1991", so its probably older.

    Any idea ? :)

    Thanks in advance !
     
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  2. ItsMeMario

    ItsMeMario Gutsy Member

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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    You can pull out some of the eproms, dump them and then compare against the mame set
     
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    ItsMeMario Gutsy Member

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    Unfortunately I dont have anything here to read out EEPROMS, but I appreciate the idea :D

    Any (good) cheap EEPROM readers you could recommend from egay ? It will be a 1 time use and the EEPROM reader would then rust in my cupboard. ^^

    At last resort I could visit a friend far, faaar away to do this. Which I wanted to avoid.
     
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    Tl866, can't go wrong for the money.

    If you plan to never use it after, you'd be able to resell pretty easy for most of your money back.
     
  6. Blur2040

    Blur2040 Game Genie

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    Not quite sure to your arcade saavy, so I apologize if I'm stating the obvious:

    1) The cabinet shape won't tell you anything. It appears that this is a generic Jamma cabinet.
    2) It's wired Jamma, so, uh...something from after 1985 or so.
    3) A PCB without a manufacturer on it...and an what looks to be an unkeyed connector? I'd bet its a bootleg.
    4) It's a vertically oriented monitor...so that narrows it down a bit.
    5) Edit: It has a z80 CPU. Might help narrow it down a bit.

    Check your power supply. Maybe it's dead and you'll get lucky.

    Otherwise, I agree that the best way to ID it is with a ROM dump.
     
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  7. Blur2040

    Blur2040 Game Genie

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    Dup. Post.
     
  8. ItsMeMario

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    Thanks for any additonal infos guys.
    I understand that EEPROM reading might be the best way, but no time for that right now.

    -Power Supply and monitor have the "HANTAREX" logo (italy)
    -The monitor can be rotated to horizontal mode as its attached to a heavy "wheel"
    -The monitor is dead and the power supply doesnt look very trustworthy anymore
     
  9. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

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    As Blur already stated, the cabinet is generic so anything other than the game PCBs will be of pretty much zero help in finding out which game it is. I'm not an arcade expert, but I think even that board itself might not be enough since you can have multiple clones using on the same hardware, i.e. you have to have the ROM data. Well, that, or get it to run. Which, given that it's a JAMMA board, might actually be a good way to approach this. If you have a monitor you can use, try hooking up a decent power supply.

    Btw, it probably won't be much of a problem to find some kind soul on here that'd dump some of those EEPROMs for you, if you want - assuming you're OK with desoldering them.
     
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  10. ItsMeMario

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    Germany here.

    Probably I dont have the "Holy grail" here, so I think "desoldering" is ok to me.

    Maybe it is indeed a standard game.
     
  11. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

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    It probably won't be Polybius, yes :b I recommend asking on arcadezentrum.com and circuit-board.de as well, but if they can't help either: I have a TL866 sitting here so I could help out. Not sure if it can read the chips on your board though (support is a bit spotty - you get what you pay for). The chip labels under any of those numbered stickers would clear that up.
     
  12. ItsMeMario

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    Hehe, you never know ;)
    Ill check out the other forums.

    Ill tear of the stickers tomorrow and upload the photos of em.

    Ill be back.
     
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    I can read pretty much any chip, I have a high end programmer. Shipping chips to and from the UK is cheap enough.

    So I'm perfectly happy to help, if you need me to.
     
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    Allright allright, as I have no use for this board anyway, knowing its probably nothing "out of the ordinary",
    Ill be happy to send the board to someone that can actually do something with it, finally telling me what I would have missed. ;D

    Ill upload the photos anyway tomorrow and will then get in contact with you Bad_Ad84.
     
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  15. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

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    I'll stay on standby in case international shipping doesn't work out for some reason (though it actually is surprisingly cheap even for the whole board!).

    But I'd still recommend trying to run the board with a working monitor (or sth like a GBS8200) and decent PSU first, if you have them.
     
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    The stickers are perfectly glued to the chips. Will need some warm water and soap to remove em carefully.

    Sending it form germany to the UK should be no problem. :)
     
  17. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

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    Better keep that unnecessary moisture away from the board (i.e. leave the stickers on). If it ends up in Bad_Ads hands, I doubt there's going to be a problem no matter what model they are.
     
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    Yeah, id leave the stickers on. I will find out what they are and be able to keep the numbering on them.
     
  19. ItsMeMario

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    I carefully used a ceran cleaner without any moisture and labeled the chips with an edding :

    8,7,6,5,4,3 are "TOSHIBA TMM24512P" VPP 12,5V 8701EBI

    chip names.jpg

    1,2,9 and 10 are OKI "M27256Z"
    chip names 2.jpg

    Ok pm sent :)
     
  20. jonwil

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    There is/was a database out there that let you search MAME drivers by CPU and sound chip type. Doing that and finding games with a pair of Yamaha YM2203 sound chips and a Z80 CPU would probably help narrow down what game it is.
     

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