NOTICE GDPR

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  1. Shadha

    Shadha Active Member

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    is someone from EU supposed to fly to kevs house and demand peoples info? i dont get how it works if someone from usa declines to give that info out. who is gunna be the punisher
     
  2. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    Holy fucking shit please go and see and see an actual expert on this before you end up getting slapped with a whopper of a fine and kill the site. I can't say for certain you're not exempt, but I can say for certain you haven't bothered seeing any kind of legal expert as there is no way on earth they would issue you with a " 'MERICA STRONG. EU COMMIES"-esque statement to put out.

    This is just bizarre and strange. You have no idea if the GDPR will be full blown adopted by the US - look at the privacy shield for crying out loud. The US is more than willing to work with the EU.

    The punishment is usually massive fines. The EU can't impose them on a US resident. but look at how the US snagged the Canadian resident behind the thief of the Durango's - they simply waited for the guy to come to the US and had him grabbed at border check in and then went from there. If Kev does fall fowl of the law and he goes areas within the EU he can be grabbed that way.
     
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  3. LuigiBlood

    LuigiBlood SNES and 64DD Savior

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    This isn't how GDPR works. I'm gonna laugh when the forum is actually killed because of a person who's actually a dumbass.
     
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  4. Cat man

    Cat man Rising Member

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    So will assembler have to pay for added protection for EU residents to be GDPR compliant?
     
  5. ItsMeMario

    ItsMeMario Peppy Member

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    Woah jesus. Wtf is going on here ?

    This new GDPR is just a shiny umbrella, claiming to offer more protection from virtual rain, while all companies will continue as usual and your data in the net is as unseucre as always...and it will stay this way. GDPR will change nothing, but make some lawyers rich(er).

    Many lawyers in germany already sell this new GDPR to your company, so you wont have to go through all the reading and anger.
    90 Euros...and if there is a single mistake, another lawayer will sue you. What a joke.

    You click some "I agree" or "dont agree" buttons and believe that something may/will have changed with it ? Really ?!

    The 1st lawsuits on this matter might show into what direction this bullshit will drift into...because thats what GDPR is...pure bullshit.

    It doesnt even matter if you discuss GDPR here. Noone knows what kind of lawsuits and solutions will show up within the next months/years...because noone really knows how to handle this.

    Except for some picky lawyers, that will try to screw you because of GDPR...there is no other reason behind this, than total confusion and some rich fooks having no idea about the internet and what BIG DATA means.

    As I said, "they" made you click / sign some "I agree" & "I dont agree" things...believing it will change the way it is... *lol*

    Many companies arent even aware what exacly this thing means, even if its "up for years" by now.

    In the end it means absolutely nothing...except you want to believe it does...that is the big problem here.

    Wait and see...but dont beat a dead horse...that will die once more. Wake up !
     
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  6. skarpo01

    skarpo01 Peppy Member

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    Some of you should really take the time to read the regulation before speaking about something they have no idea about.

    The main point behing GDPR has absolutely nothing to do with lawyers trying to screw you and take your money. GDPR has been implemented to give individuals more control over the personal data they share with companies/registered entities, including the right of access, the right of modification/rectification and the right of erasure. This is in addition to make sure that companies have implemented sufficient/appropriate controls to secure your personal data. GDPR has been implemented to try to stop all that dodgy market around personal data that is sold onto third parties by companies. How do you think companies providing you a free service make money? They sell all your personal data to third parties. Would you be happy if I told you that highly sensitive medical data about you and your family is stored on a non-secure legacy server somewhere in India? Would you be happy if I told you that the recruiting company where you applied 5 years ago holds all your personal data and has sold it to a real estate company so that they can specifically target you based on your age, gender, location and the likelihood you are to buy? Would you be happy if I told you that the corner store where you buy food has your credit card information stored on a server that is not protected by a firewall? Would you be happy if I told you that the credit check company you use suffered a data breach and all your personal data is available on the dark web, and for a mere $50 someone can steal your identity?

    Those are ''extreme'' examples, but I am sure you understand what it is all about.

    Your personal opinion on the topic, the way you think it should be, how you interpret it, if you think it is ridiculous or useless does not matter at all because guess what: it has been drafted, discussed for years, adopted and passed as a LAW.

    You seem outraged by a law that promotes privacy, yet none of you seem to have any issue with national surveillance and the fact that network/activity logs are collected on a massive scale and on a daily basis.

    Bottom line ---> it is up to the administrator of this website to take this matter in his own hands and seek professional/legal advice.
     
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  7. DeChief

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    Ditto, can't wait.
     
  8. Muramasa

    Muramasa Rising Member

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    This law is already having all sorts of unintended consequences. I still wonder if the EU had any idea about some of the consequences of this law would be. Most people understand the idea behind the law and even agree to the idea behind the law. However it is extremely vague at this point and not well understood at this point. Many sites are finding it easier to block the EU entirely rather then comply with the law. Part of this is that nobody is entirely sure how to comply with the law which is why there is so much conversation going on about it now.

    "However, a spokesman the commission said, based on “legal reasons”, European institutions are separate from the GDPR."
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/967585/gdpr-eu-personal-data-hack-leak-personal-data-brussels

    ^^^ It's not encouraging at all that EU agencies can't figure out how to comply either.

    Another interesting thing is that if you extract all the advertising revenue from these companies they are going to find a way to work around it. The WashingtonPost for example has added a "Premium EU Subscription"
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?utm_term=.59b79c7eeab4

    How many other businesses will head this route? Can the EU force businesses to provide services? (In the United States this is frowned upon) Either this is a good example of government having no idea what the actual consequences would be from pie in the sky legislation, or they knew exactly what it would be and are hoping to block foreign tech companies in favor of new local ones. The thing is the EU is already a tech wasteland. The only companies that can truly be confident that they are complying are the large companies. Any one with a startup idea will end up registering there business in the US or Hong Kong to get around this.

    Yes law in the EU. The really interesting part will be to see if the United States is willing to hurt the booming tech industry in the United State for the EU. At this point if an enforcement action comes through the the US what are they going to do? I wouldn't be surprised if they are ignored all together or tossed out of our courts for being way to onerous. The only way this changes is if the a treaty of some sort is passed. People might be stuck with this law in the EU, but so far in the US it hold no weight, or at least nobody has been able to show that it will hold weight.

    The law is pitched as promoting privacy and most Europeans see it that way, but getting into the details of how to actually implement it is tricky. Those who insist its not still have no idea what is coming. This is going to be tied up in legal battles for YEARS to come. Meanwhile If you want to play it really safe you just block the EU, or if you don't think enforcement can reach you where ever you are ignore it.
     
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  9. GoodTofuFriday

    GoodTofuFriday Site Supporter 2015,2016,2017

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    Cost MINUTES of your time to activate xenfo provided gdpr compliance functions.
    Why take chances. That lazy?
     
  10. ItsMeMario

    ItsMeMario Peppy Member

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    Basically, what you are saying is :
    All companies will now stop selling their BIG DATA because of GDPR.txt and...aw, come on.

    You sound exactly like one of those politicians. Or maybe you are a lobbyist ? ;)
    If it sounds too good to be true...but let me explain.

    All companies should have invested into well payed IT specialists to prevent any kind of personal data-leaks in the past already.
    But they did not. And those who did, got hacked anyway. GDPR wont prevent that in the future.

    Any company should have taken measures in the past already, to make it impossible, to actually sell their BIG DATA.
    But they did not. Because they cant...because they dont want to.

    If you fail to properly integrate GDPR into your company, there will be lawyers.
    And if you actually managed to properly integrate GDPR, but your BIG DATA got leaked anyway, there will always be lawyers.

    And it will be more expensive now, because thanks to GDPR, this was not suppossed to happen. ;)

    Did you read across the net, how confusing GDPR is to small companies for example ?
    How much work they have to do, without knowing to be 100% safe...from lawyers..and other idiots ?
    Did you read "news reports" on IT sites about it ? Always covered with dark humor and sad truth ?

    Everyone waiting for the 1st court instances...to learn what GDPR will actually mean to them in todays world.

    Sure, there are also people like you, who think GDPR is a very positive thing.

    But ever heard of corruption ? ;) You think GDPR.txt will end that now ?

    Do you know how fucked up the world of lawyers and their "cease and desist notices" is ?
    UK, Germany, France...Europe ? Wake up ! GDPR will be great feast for lawyers. And it wil defenitley NOT make your journey on the internet much safer. You will see...

    A law cant prevent what is going on in todays virtual world. Its as simple as that.
    You really believe your privacy is way more safer on the internet now, because of a political text file and
    because you clicked some "I agree" and "I dont agree" buttons ?
     
  11. R07

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    I’m going to spit out an analogy and maybe some of you can see the irony of this or maybe I’m misunderstanding. I’m going to state first off that I’m 100% for our privacy, but as a developer I don’t really understand how I’m required to follow all of this if billion-dollar companies can’t even comprehend the full details. Ok on to my analogy, the way I see it is I won a house on the border of two countries. Now the country on the other side of the line says if anyone comes from my property onto their land or vice versa I will be fined 10s of thousands of dollars. But only if I don’t build a big wall around my property. First off, I’m forced to pay a big upfront cost of my small little house to be “legal” with the new neighboring counties law, that don’t apply to me or go to jail if I step outside my little yard. But, I’m a good home owner and don’t want to be fined and I spend thousand of dollars with no help to build a wall financially. Now one night some sneaky guy hops my fence, that I built to keep him out, but he gets in anyway. Now I’m required to pay money I never had in the first place for another counties problem. I think I might have lost everyone by now. lol
     
  12. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    Your post is complete bullshit to say that it's not a massive change/not taken seriously and if you want me to show you why I can post the figures I've accumulated over YEARS of how much spam/newsletters/general undesired shit we've got and see how it tanks on the 25th of May. Many many companies have literally decided to just get rid of the lifeblood of their business strategy (mailshots) because of GDPR. That's how serious it is.
     
  13. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    Yes, he’s lazy. Also, it’s clear he doesn’t give a fuck about this site any more, or at least it isn’t very important to him. The fact that he’s totally ignoring this thread that he started just further proves that.
     
  14. awesomeNES

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    I'm proud to be an American. You been watching the fake news, chief?
     
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  15. system

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    No. The only people that aren’t genuinely proud to be an American are the same ones pushing Communism and equity for all.
     
  16. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    Equity for all? What a scary concept that is! "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." Sound familiar?
     
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  17. Arcadia

    Arcadia Spirited Member

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    Could we please stop debating America versus the world? That's not the issue here. I'm hoping this GDPR business won't stop us from enjoying this site, and I'm sure Kev'll find a solution to it.

    Now let's just leave it at that.
     
  18. system

    system Rising Member

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    Created equal, as in equal opportunity, is a good thing.
    Giving unequal opportunity in order to get equal outcome, also known as equity, is a bad thing.
    I don't see how what you're saying goes against what I said, unless you know, either it was misunderstood what I exactly meant by equity, or that you do want everyone to be exactly throughout life, comrade.
    Equity for all is a scary concept, and it goes against the very theory that, as you said, "that all men are created equal..."

    ok fine
     
  19. Hiccup

    Hiccup Robust Member

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    @ASSEMbler are you gonna put "EU" and "UK" back in the marketplace tag list? There was no need to remove them.
     

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