Copying the HDD for deleted builds

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  1. james2452

    james2452 X360

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    This weekend i want to check some consoles i have for deleted builds. Just want to make sure a few things before i start..

    If i copy the HDD to a pc using a raw hdd copy tool to create a imgc file will it delete the HDD after it has finished ?

    How do i look in the imgc file to see what is there ?

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  2. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

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    > If i copy the HDD to a pc using a raw hdd copy tool to create a imgc file will it delete the HDD after it has finished?
    I don't know of a single hdd cloning tool that erases the source drive. unless you fudge up and clone the wrong way round, i.e. clone to your xbox hdd, you'll be fine.
     
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    james2452 X360

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    Iv got image of source , i double clicked it and saved as img . Hope it saves it so i can look inside it with img tools...
    Edit: did not work using poweriso to open it.
     
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  4. emilisb

    emilisb Active Member

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    I recovered many deleted Xbox 360 builds (Homefront 2, Crysis 2, Crysis 3, over 10 builds in total so far and I still have a few more images to try) but I had to make my own recovery tool which is not user friendly at all... It involves finding the right offsets, calculating a few things, etc. I can help you with your image if you want.
     
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    james2452 X360

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    That sounds hard todo. There must be a easy way todo it..
     
  6. wanszai

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    You CAN open your image (full uncompressed) in FATXplorer. This will show some deleted files that can be retrieved although its not a patch on emilisb's recovery tool.
     
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    james2452 X360

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    Im just testing it with a spare 20gb hdd at the moment. If i can work it out ill try it on my 4 crytek kits with ea builds. Then my crytek kit with sumo builds (hope to get streets of rage xex). Then my kit from thq that has southpark and metro builds.
     
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    james2452 X360

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    If anyone knows of a tool that can recover builds that got deleted ,please share. I need a tool that lets you look in the file it makes.
     
  9. josiahgould

    josiahgould Spirited Member

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    I'd suggest using a hex editor and looking at the image directly. Even if it's not in the file table, the data would still be there, unless overwritten. Look for 0x48454258 (XBE) maybe.
     
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    Is there anything like this but for PS3 DECR Systems? Mine came with both 400GB drives erased.
     
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    james2452 X360

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    There will be ,do not install anything on the hdd as it over writes any deleted stuff.
    Best person to ask is @PixelButts
     
  13. -=FamilyGuy=-

    -=FamilyGuy=- Site Supporter 2049

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    There are no *easy* way to recover erased data. Some file might be easier to recover than others though. I had great success with r-studio (not the R language IDE) to dump a disc and then scan it for lost files. It does scan the whole disc and tries to determine if there are files using different techniques, among which the detection of the file structure/header/etc. I recovered over 2000 travel photos as well a important school project with it.
     
  14. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    Problem is, most tools don't support xfat.
     
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    -=FamilyGuy=- Site Supporter 2049

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    A blind raw read of xfat should be able to find fles no? Even if it can't find the filesystem. It's not encrypted or scrambled?
     
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    How is it going to know the signature of all file types?
     
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    -=FamilyGuy=- Site Supporter 2049

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    Not all, but a ton of them. It finds JPG, PNG, ZIP, 7z, DOC, you name it. Even text files or sourcefiles by analysing the format/text. The challenge really is to prune the crap from the real stuff, but it's easier than to find the potential files yourself to begin with.
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    yeah the issue with that is, most games (prototypes, context of this thread) is its going to have data files and all sorts that dont fall on the common types.

    Would be fine for finding your lost presentation etc, but not so good for finding a deleted prototype.

    Oh and because I may as well be useful:
    https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk

     
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    -=FamilyGuy=- Site Supporter 2049

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    Would be worth it to try still. And those are professional tools so it probably is aware of Maya files etc.
     
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    I have used rstudio, better to use the tool above or something custom written for xbox imo.
     
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