1CHIP SNES SuperCIC and mod help

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  1. keropi

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    Hello!

    I just received a 1CHIP SNES and I would like to mod it as I am planning to use it as my main SNES console... I have installed a couple of SuperCIC chips in normal SNES revisions but I am having difficulties finding info for the 1CHIP revision... so I have some questions :biggrin-new:

    a. Do I need specific 1CHIP supercic code?
    b. Do I need an extra 50/60hz switching chip? Maybe separate PAL and NTSC crystals?
    c. ... and most importantly :dejection: , is there a good diagram somewhere or a guide for installing things on the 1CHIP?

    As always any help will be greatly appreciated, there is lots of normal SNES consoles infos out there but 1CHIP seems a little on the rare side of info... :dejection:

    thanks!

    edit: I have found this thread: http://forum.snesfreaks.com/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=10401 that looks like a treasure of info, only that I don't know any German to fully understand it :mad-new:

    edit2: I gather I need a 21,47727 MHz crystal , will the ones from this eBay sale work?
    found some more info here btw... http://playoffline.wordpress.com/mod/1chip60hz/
     
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  2. Mamejay

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    Hi there. The link to the crystal looks like its the correct one for a pal system.
    Have a look at this http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/snes-switchless-modchip/
    at the bottom there is a download of a schematic to build the 50/60Hz circuit. You will need to build this using a 7404 and 7400 IC's
    You can use the normal SuperCIC code just for the 50/60Hz pin you will need to attach this circuit. Hope this helps.
     
  3. keropi

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    thanks , I now see the 1CHIP needs 2 things...
    I won't lie: I can't really understand the schematic: http://sd2snes.de/files/1chip-5060.pdf
    Can a kind soul break it up to me so I can solder the needed parts correctly? That electronic schematic is not for me :(
     
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    What you need to build is actually in one of the links you provided. Just build the circuit as per the picture below.
    [​IMG]
     
  5. keropi

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    thanks for the help Mamejay! This schematic is easy to follow, I'll give it a shot!

    btw, do you happen to know what's the difference in the 2 schematics that are together in the link? is the 1st one the new improved version?
     
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    Sorry what 2 schematics are you talking about? Just use the one of the picture above I posted. It can be optimized as its quite large but you can just follow that exactly and it should be fine. I have ordered parts to do a couple of 1chip models i have so I will post up in the next few weeks.
     
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    I am talking about this one here: http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4724/switchless5060v2.png , seems like a different version or something, I am just curious of why it differs :)
    I also have ordered parts too and waiting for them but I am looking forward to seeing your mod Mamejay :)

    edit: is the optional connection to the S-RGB pin9 for true PAL and NTSC output? If you do not connect there then ntsc is pal-60 ?
     
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    Thanks guys wanted to do this now i can fix my snes with that board so it will out put pal games yay and i will now buy a snes jr and try this.
     
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    Because its not a schematic, its a circuit diagram.
     
  10. keropi

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    ^ yes, circuit diagram - perfect for me that I don't get the schematic :highly_amused:
     
  11. keropi

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    Mamejay did you even got around to mod your 1chip consoles? I just got the parts for mine and I am open to any potential advice :congratulatory:
     
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    i just got the parts yesterday myself but am busy all weekend so would be hitting it next week. Will post up some screen shots once I get around to do it.
     
  13. keropi

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    I was about to completely remove the CIC when I found ikari_01's pictures here: http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/supercic/Recent
    he has left the original CIC in place, that gave me second thoughts :highly_amused: as I prefer to completely remove it (like I do on the older snes revisions) but thought I asked in case it is needed to be left onboard, the CIC has a different part number too...

    so.... is it needed or I can remove it completely?
    thanks! :D
     
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    It should not matter. The SuperCIC emulates the CIC chip. Lifting the pins or removing the chip all together will give you the same result.
     
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    Don't forget to add the 10kohm resistor if you remove the CIC!
     
  16. keropi

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    awesome, thanks for the help!
     
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    I have been slowly began working on this after I got the parts needed from Bad_Ad84 :triumphant:

    I have built the 50/60hz switch according to the diagram posted here:

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I put some pins for easy soldering, the whole construction fits nicely in the empty space between the shorter 1CHIP mobo and the joyports ...

    then I lifted S-CPUN pin111 and S-RGB pin9 (bad angled foto, you can't tell easily it's lifted...)

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    and today I removed the original CIC (yeah that's all I did today :rolleyes-new:)

    [​IMG]

    next steps is to solder the SuperCIC and IGR chips, those will be fixed on the mobo with double-sided tape... more pics to come as I progress :loyal:
     
  18. Mamejay

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    Why have you not finished yet? If you are at this stage it should be a matter of just soldering up the wires and its all done.
     
  19. keropi

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    ^ true , but the boredom is strong in me atm :biggrin-new: :highly_amused:
     
  20. Bad_Ad84

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    You probably want Pin 5 and pin 9 of the 74HCU04 connected to ground. Unused inputs of the HC series shouldnt be left floating, as it causes excess power draw. I dont know if this applies to the HCU ones, but it cant hurt (as the outputs are unused for those anyway)
     

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