So recently, i have come to the conclusion that my JTAG (falcon) stays MUCH cooler then my XDK Zephyr. i don't have much expertise with the Zephyr motherboards as this is my first zephyr, i was wondering.. The falcons have been fitted with a new GPU heatsink (see pictures below) is it possible to apply a Falcon heatsink model onto a zephyr for better cooling? i'm not 100% sure, but i think zephyrs (or at least early models) do not have that extra heatsink addon (again, see below) could this excessive heating issue be a cause of faulty thermal paste (i did the towel trick if you remember) would that of rendered the GPU/CPU paste almost useless.. and it NEEDS a replacement? or does thermal paste not dry up under extreme heat? thanks! - Stipo360 FALCON MOBO Xenon/ Early Zephyr
Just be careful to pop the sidecar off the top of the kit before you pull the console shell apart. The 6 leg/tabs are fragile on the bottom of the sidecar.
big time, i'm not even sure i'm ready yet, i'm gonna slowly work my way to unlocking the sidecar legs, one by one, learning the technique as i go, last thing i want is a damaged car >.< every picture i've seen of a sidecar online has its legs chipped off xD so i'm gonna go ahead and assume its one HELL of a job
For the two pins closest to the front of the kit I would recommend using something like a shirt hanger that has been bent straight. So use the standard method for the middle and back pins after that gently hold up the sidecar so you can look from the back to the front and use the shirt hanger to get the front pins. Sounds a little complicated but after you do it a few times you'll understand.
Thanks! This needs to be done immediately because my GPU/CPU temps on the XDK are running at IDLE temps of 50ish C... and i'm running these crazy external fans, So there is definitely a thermal paste issue goin on here, its as if all the thermal paste dried up and magically evaporated. Since my jtag never goes above 42C .. EVEN after like 2 hours of intense forza gameplay or something. :/ it kind of scares me.. because of this i don't dare to play more then 20 minutes on my XDK just yet haha. Call me crazy if you'd like, since there are people out there who think 65-70C IDLE is A-OK. but i am not one of those people lol, i really don't want the XDK to RROD. EVEN if 50C IDLE is normal.. since im used to 35C IDLE from my jtag.. :/
look at this : why the hell is idle so hot xD AND i'm running my external fan things aswell! WTF D: it MUST be the thermal paste huh?
Xenons and Zephyrs always run hot. I am a firm believer Microsoft designed them to be toasters and accidentally created a gaming console.
Your thermal paste has dried bud, clean it off and reapply, hopefully the towel trick has not ruined the console. Ive also noticed in the pictures that you tend to keep your xdk really close to your psu's. Move them, there heat generators also. In your last thread im sure i saw a picture of your console ontop of two psu's. Heat rises buddy!
aha no worries man! that's just for display for pictures when i actually use the console its in a very good spot, away from any blockage
Of course with later revisions, they shrink the CPU and GPU so they generate less heat. Of course they would improve the heatsinks so Falcons/Jaspers don't cook their guts, but I wouldn't expect to see too drastic of improvements (maybe 3 degrees?). I would also get a fan speed xex and crack up the speed to help. May sound like a freight train but it will help. Keeps my Xenon JTAG cool. Doesn't reach the 60s untill it's been gamed on for a few hours. EDIT: Reread one of your posts. I see you already have a fan speed xex lol. First there was the Nintoaster, now there is the XToast360.
haha yeah xD my first ever xbox 360 was a xenon, which RROR'ed. now of course back then i didnt have the jtag mod on it so i couldn't tell the temperature, AND it was running stock fans.. yet it lived on for about 1 and a half years ish, this being my first zephyr i am very new to seeing such temperatures, as now with it being an XDK, i CAN check the temps.. i'm used to bone cold CPU/GPU temps my falcons give out, for this very reason i am going to swap out my retail's heatsink sets from one of my falcons and place em in the XDK, should definitely help!
If you're really feeling ambitious, you could try something like this: https://xbox-experts.com/shop/-xbox...uniclamp--x-clamp-repair-kit-w-paste--45/EUR/ I never realized how well this worked until today. I took one of my old Xenon JTAGs out of the garage with RROD 0102. I had installed this a while back, but after installation it still had RROD. Taking a closer look at it, I noticed the side of the plate opposite the RAM was grounding the console on a couple of points. I took it off, used wire cutters to trim down the points, then reinstalled. After reflowing with a 0022, the CPU runs at 60 degrees, 20 degrees cooler than my other Xenon JTAG. You can feel the heat radiate out the back of the chassis thanks to the heat pads on the bottom. I'd recommend it. Only problem is it's a bitch to install. You have to drill through the chassis, then sand, and then getting the washers in place is crazy difficult. You feel like MacGyver playing operation when setting it up. But overall I think it is the next best thing to reballing and fan speed modding.
Thanks! ill have a look at it Though my intentions are to keep the console as stock looking as physically possible but yet while still addressing the heating issue, if i ever want to sell it itll be a bitch to sell when i have to mention there's a third party product in it :/ for a jtag that's A-OK.. but for an XDK, that's quite dodgy