Xbox 360 XDK boots to 3 red rings every time

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  1. Stipo360

    Stipo360 Dead Rising & XDKs

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    I recently launched dolphin, left it running for about 3 minutes, and the screen started to flicker like MAD, i powered off the console within 2 seconds of seeing this issue, i guess i wasn't fast enough and now it wont boot at all.

    Error code was this sequence : 4, 1, 1, 4 "0110" (RAM de-solderment)

    UPDATE:

    I have just attempted the towel trick with xboxsurgeon's help and she lives! :D though i am VERY aware it is not a permanent fix
    i will try to heat the board with a heat gun when i can acquire one! Arctic silver thermal paste is an option aswell!



    Here's a pic of the kit, beauty <3 (side car doesn't have a crack in it, just the lighting lol xD)
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  2. XboxSurgeon

    XboxSurgeon Site Supporter Since 2013

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    When it RROD's press and hold the sync button, then tap the eject while holding sync in four times. Each time the ring segments will flicker. Follow the key to figure the secondary code out, 4=0, 3=3, 2=2, 1=1.

    Find out the secondary and then a fix can be figured out.
     
  3. Stipo360

    Stipo360 Dead Rising & XDKs

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    It flickered in segments of 4, 1, 1, 4

    as in 4 red lights lite up, then 1, then 1, then 4 again
     
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  4. XboxSurgeon

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    Xbox Xxperts says the following: "This error is caused by a cold solder joint under one of the RAM chips, mostly its the top ones, sometimes it can also be one of the solder balls under the GPU that lead to the RAM"

    https://xbox-experts.com/errorcode/E20/0110/
     
  5. Stipo360

    Stipo360 Dead Rising & XDKs

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    omfg D: welp, im screwed.
     
  6. XboxSurgeon

    XboxSurgeon Site Supporter Since 2013

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    Not necessarily. PM'd.
     
  7. Gamecheat

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    Use the oven trick
     
  8. Stipo360

    Stipo360 Dead Rising & XDKs

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    too risky in my opinion, i know it heats the board fairly well.. but i'm to scared to try it :/
     
  9. XboxSurgeon

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    It may not be permanent but there are some fan speed mod xexs out there to assist with heating issues. Gorgeous kit by the way.
     
  10. Stipo360

    Stipo360 Dead Rising & XDKs

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    Thanks bud :)
     
  11. Gamecheat

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    Make sure you preheat the oven first.
     
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    Stipo360 Dead Rising & XDKs

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    Its definitely an option worth thinking about, thanks GC!
     
  13. DeCrYpTiC

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    From someone who has botched many Xbox 360 repairs before, I would not recommend the oven method. Even with the tape or tinfoil, I have had caps blow up and render the board as an Oxford dictionary paperweight. I would not recommend the heat gun either as I have blown off resistors and rendered the board useless. The towel trick is a bit overkill, I stick 2 prongs in the back of the console to stop the fans from running. If the board comes back to life for a minute, you know it is a hardware issue, but I would not keep using the board. If you want to open it up, that will give you an idea of what is going on. I have had consoles that had no heat pads on the RAM. I have also had consoles with the cheap 8 screws XClamp replacement done, which warps the board, does damage, and is ultimately worse than XClamps. If either of these are the case, I would check out Xbox-expert's XClamp replacement, which is professionally engineered, and does wonders for cooling and keeping the motherboard erect. They also sell thermal pads for the RAM. I would also take a look at your CPU and GPU and make sure their thermal paste isn't caked, if it is, reapply some more. And, if you really want to give the console a long life, I would have it professionally reballed with lead solder, which expands as the motherboard warps and prevents cold joints.

    You probably already know I'm doing this. If the guy I hire is trustworthy and gets the job done, I will shoot you a PM and recommend him to you. Best of luck.
     
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  14. kyo86sg

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    Dang, hate to see an XDK go to the bins because of RROD. Do ensure that the XDK is on "life support" now. X-clamp or reball or invest in cooling mods if required.
     
  15. Stipo360

    Stipo360 Dead Rising & XDKs

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    @DeCrYpTiC thanks for the great info! as it stands i'm sure the towel trick has given quite a good jump start, i say this because i use extremely powerful (and loud) exhaust fans that i tape the back of all my consoles, keeps them ice cold :) so the towel trick was just to re-ball it, but what most people don't get is the towel trick only fails after a couple weeks because the retail fans just aren't enough to keep it cool, and the towel method will surely fail after a while, but the way i'm gonna keep it, ill never let this thing get above 40 Celsius on the GPU AND CPU XD so there shouldn't ever be a board warping issue :) but new thermal paste is definitely a good idea! like i said, arctic silver sounds quite nice

    @kyo86sg yup, it was really sad, i just got it yesterday, played with it for about 20 minutes, and boom, gone.. at least shes up and running now! :D
     
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    Even still... I will light a candle sir and say a quiet but peaceful prayer.
     
  17. Stipo360

    Stipo360 Dead Rising & XDKs

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    Thank you sir! :) as will i it seems haha
     
  18. DeCrYpTiC

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    If you're talking about the nyko intercooler, it doesn't do shit other than make my console a couple degrees warmer. Damn fans on fans. What do you use? My Xenon's running at 80 degrees and it makes me nervous.
     
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  19. Stipo360

    Stipo360 Dead Rising & XDKs

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    WOW 80!? dude, i have these dual fans that i soldered together to a board, and they literally just sit behind the console, and work together with the internal fans to add a total of 4 fans on the console, so the external fans are just forcing the hot air the internal fans are pushing out. but these don't use the xbox motherboard power. they use their own power source, they use a laptop charger power so they are like JET ENGINES! lol, no joke. i get 39-40C on both gpu and cpu :)! cold, yes. loud. YES
     
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  20. DeCrYpTiC

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    Mind taking a picture of your setup for me?
     

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