Using redump-style ISOs on Xbox HDD

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  1. howling

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    Howdy everyone,

    I recently softmodded my Xbox and swapped in a 2TB HDD for playing games. I already have my games dumped redump-style (regular ISO, ~8GB) so that I can verify they're good dumps.

    I know that the Xbox can only support ~4GB files, and prefers individual files and folders. My question is, how can I use these verified dumps on my Xbox? All of the XISO programs reject my regular ISOs, and I can't just FTP the files, as they are too large.

    EDIT: Alternatively, if there's an XISO or XBE datfile or database out there, that would also be helpful. My main concern is that the dumps I am using on the Xbox are accurate.

    Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
     
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  2. DinohScene

    DinohScene Site Supporter 2014

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    As far as I know, if your ISO's are good, you can just rip them with Qwix.
    The old Xbox unfortunately doesn't support the loading of ISO images.
     
  3. howling

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    I just tried to convert the ISO9660 dumps using Qwix 1.01 (on Win10) , and it doesn't seem to work. I am using the "Create ISO" - > "Convert ISO" option, and I just get a 576KB ISO file with nothing in it.

    Any ideas?
     
  4. MightySubzero

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    Just Extract the ISO And FTP it to your xbox. I use PowerISO to extract the ISO like a Zip File. Then FTP the games to the xbox Hard drive.
     
  5. Lum

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    Did you try using the Xbox optical drive to rip the discs directly to the HDD? It'll be slow, but avoids messing with transferring or ISOs.
     
  6. weinerschnitzel

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    Which games was it that took advantage of the filesystem on the DVD so the filenames were too long to rip to FATX?
     
  7. Rocky5

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    You can't extract the ISO or convert it with any of the Xbox iso tools, you would need to burn it to a dual layer disc first & rip it to the Xbox HDD as ISO or files using DVD2Xbox.

    The ISO is made up of two layers, layer 1 is the video layer (DVD video you get when inserting a Xbox disc into a PC or DVD player) second layer is the game files.
    (The reason they ripped this way is to get a 1.1 copy of the disc for historical/archiving purposes. Not for folk to play them.)

    You could try software that can read multi session ISO "ISO Buster" does I think & rip the data layer.

    If you wanted it to work on the Xbox without doing the above, you would need to delete the first layer of the ISO can't remember the offset (will check tomorrow) and then convert it with qwix. After that you would need to split the ISO into two parts, look at the discimageutility source for the exact size & find a tool that just splits files.
     
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  8. MightySubzero

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    You can Extract The ISO with Power ISO.. It will extract the ISO in file format.. Meaning it will have all the files including the default.xbe

    Just extract it with PowerISO and FTP it to you xbox games folder. Might look like this F:\Games\(name of Game)
     
  9. howling

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    I could definitely do this. However, I would really rather not redump 70+ discs a second time (and there's a chance I could get bad reads when doing so.)

    PowerISO's extract operation was only able to find the first layer of the ISO9660 dump (VIDEO_TS), not the second layer with the actual game data. I would assume that this would work if it were a single-layer rip or XISO.

    Well that's disappointing. I figured that might be the case, but I noticed there was a lot of ISO9660 support in many of the Xbox applications.

    I didn't realize that was the trick they were using. How clever. And yeah, archival and consistency are the primary benefits of dumping the discs this way.

    Isobuster only sees the first layer on an initial load. Running "Find files and folders" causes it to find the second "XBOX" iso layer, but it's unable to extract or view the information within.

    If by offset you mean the layer break, it's typically at offset 1913776. How exactly would I use this offset to break off the XBOX iso layer?
     
  10. Rocky5

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    Try GX XGD Extract it's meant to extract xgd isos.
     
  11. howling

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    Brilliant! I didn't even think about using 360 tools to extract this data.

    For everyone who also wants to extract Xbox ISO9660 dumps, GX XGD Extract is the most convenient program, as it can extract and FTP the files directly to an Xbox. However, the program will crash on games with nonstandard file setups (e.g. Ninja Gaiden).

    The more compatible option is actually Xbox Backup Creator's "Image Tools"->"Image Browser" window, which hasn't had a problem with any of my discs. The downside, of course, is that you have to extract the files to your PC before transferring them via FTP.

    Thanks again to everyone who gave an answer!
     
  12. Rocky5

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    There is a stand alone version that doesn't require XBC "Xbox_Image_Browse_v2.9.0.350" is the file name, not sure if there is a newer version though.

    Xbox_Image_Browse_v2.9.0.350.zip
     
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