Shoutbox Archive 2016

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    Jul 4, 2016 at 1:42 AM - Gameboi64: Doom to the 3DO
    Jul 4, 2016 at 1:46 AM - Sephirothkefka: look like this version uses aifc
    Jul 4, 2016 at 1:46 AM - Agent21KGB: currently having 3do nightmares
    Jul 4, 2016 at 1:46 AM - Sephirothkefka: sdx2 8bit adpcm
    Jul 4, 2016 at 1:47 AM - Sephirothkefka: *dpcm
    Jul 4, 2016 at 1:47 AM - Sephirothkefka: at 44khz
    Jul 4, 2016 at 1:47 AM - Sephirothkefka: sounds quite nice
    Jul 4, 2016 at 1:51 AM - Sephirothkefka: sdx2=square delta exact
    Jul 4, 2016 at 1:52 AM - awesomeNES: Hey guys if I installed helders AV kit in my top loader, will the n64 RF adapter work to give me RF capability again?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 2:10 AM - Gameboi64: This is a great guy to watch: https://m.youtube.com/user/UnknownArchive
    Jul 4, 2016 at 2:12 AM - Gameboi64: Hey kev
    Jul 4, 2016 at 2:17 AM - GoodTofuFriday: awesomenes - yes
    Jul 4, 2016 at 2:25 AM - Gameboi64: What
    Jul 4, 2016 at 2:39 AM - Nopileus: doom really was on everything, too bad the ports all sucked
    Jul 4, 2016 at 2:47 AM - Gameboi64: The 32x port was ok
    Jul 4, 2016 at 2:47 AM - Gameboi64: It's just the music sucked hard
    Jul 4, 2016 at 2:52 AM - Nopileus: strange really given the mega drive had a proper yamaha FM synth
    Jul 4, 2016 at 3:07 AM - Sephirothkefka:
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:21 AM - sp193: @nope: I think that I was wrong and PS1VModeNeg is probably as complete as it would be. Now to think about it, only one or two people ever told me that PS1VModeNeg causes "PAL60".
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:22 AM - sp193: The PS1DRV program itself has a very confusing GS initialization process because it seems to allow the PS game to actually change the video mode.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:25 AM - sp193: Due to this design, that would explain why there is no progressive mode option.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:35 AM - TriMesh: Is there only one PS1DRV binary across all regions?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:35 AM - sp193: At first, no. It used to be region-specific until the SCPH-75000.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:37 AM - TriMesh: But you can change the video mode even on the older ones?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:39 AM - sp193: Yes. The full initialization code for both PAL and NTSC exists in all drivers, although the SYNCHV values and video mode setting is hardcoded.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:39 AM - sp193: So the only thing necessary, is for PS1VModeNeg to override those hardcoded values with the desired ones.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:40 AM - TriMesh: Rather strange piece of design
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:41 AM - sp193: What's strange about that? Wasn't it a common practice to have PAL and NTSC designs in that era?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:42 AM - TriMesh: Yeah, but if you are building two different binaries, why put dead code in them
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:42 AM - sp193: I think that the unused code exists because it was written in C.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:43 AM - sp193: i.e. it belonged to a library function.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:43 AM - TriMesh: Ah, OK
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:44 AM - sp193: I also noticed that there is a check for a GS with a revision number of 1. It seems to only support NTSC, but we do not have any consoles with such a GS revision.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:48 AM - TriMesh: So what's in a SCPH-10000?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:48 AM - TriMesh: Rev 2?
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:48 AM - sp193: Rev 8
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:48 AM - TriMesh: OK, I guess rev 1 must be prehistoric
    Jul 4, 2016 at 5:50 AM - sp193: Yeah. Even their DEV9 driver has code to support hardware that we don't have.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:17 AM - MoockyLoock: As you're talking 'bout PS1 video mode, what do you think "bout this :
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:17 AM - MoockyLoock: http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/diy-genesis-2-to-ps1-rgb-adapter.62163/
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:17 AM - MoockyLoock: could it be that simple ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:20 AM - MoockyLoock: HD Retrovision did an adapter in orde to get their Genesis cable to work on NeoGeo, just because of the angles if the plug pins
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:20 AM - MoockyLoock: but i don't think it would be so simple for PS1
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:20 AM - sp193: I thought that the PlayStation has no RGB output?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:20 AM - sp193: But I am no hardware guy lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:23 AM - MoockyLoock: PlayStation has RGB indeed
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:23 AM - MoockyLoock: At least PAL ones, as it's my actual setup
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:23 AM - MoockyLoock: you can even use PS2 RGB cables
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:24 AM - sp193: Really? Then wouldn't it work?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:25 AM - MoockyLoock: Dunno.. i was thinking more 'bout resistors values, those kind of issues
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:25 AM - sp193: Or rather, if it can output RGB/Component video directly, why do you need this?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:25 AM - MoockyLoock: Else, you could wire any RGB console to those cables
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:26 AM - MoockyLoock: It outputs RGB natively, but no component
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:26 AM - sp193: I can't quite understand the point behind the HD Retrovision product. It doesn't actually give RGB output from the console, but obtains it from composite.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:26 AM - MoockyLoock: As far as i understand ^^
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:26 AM - sp193: Wouldn't the signal quality be already deteriorated?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:27 AM - MoockyLoock: No
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:27 AM - MoockyLoock: It takes RGB signals, and gives component
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:27 AM - MoockyLoock: YUV
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:27 AM - MoockyLoock: it doesn't take from composite
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:29 AM - sp193: Isn't the Genesis's output cable composite?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:29 AM - MoockyLoock: PAL Genesis outputs RGB too
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:29 AM - MoockyLoock: PAL Genesis = MegaDrive
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:29 AM - sp193: But what is this product meant to tap on? :/
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:30 AM - sp193: The diagram shows composite -> RGB/Component
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:30 AM - MoockyLoock: Connect your console to modern TV through YUV
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:30 AM - MoockyLoock: Ah
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:30 AM - sp193: Okay. Then if your Megadrive can output RGB, what is the point behind this?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:30 AM - MoockyLoock: unch time
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:31 AM - MoockyLoock: All flat TV can't handle RGB that good
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:31 AM - MoockyLoock: Lunch time, back in 1/2 hour :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:31 AM - sp193: Even so, how would that be worse than this product?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:35 AM - sp193: Okay, so it seems like the Genesis has RGB output. But it still doesn't explain why you must use this product...
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:36 AM - sp193: When I wrote "RGB" here, I really just meant "Red Green Blue" here because the same lines are used for Component/RGB on the PS2.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:43 AM - MoockyLoock: finally, back soonre than expected
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:43 AM - MoockyLoock: dunno the exact means of all this product
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:44 AM - MoockyLoock: i just meant that it's easier to conenct an old console using YUV/HDMI than any other connection
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:48 AM - skyway1985: It's just an rgb to component converter
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:49 AM - MoockyLoock: Yeah, i think you summarized quite good
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:49 AM - MoockyLoock: :]
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:50 AM - skyway1985: I like my scart to component box, and my XRGB3 so I'm covered don't see much point for me since I have a plethora of consoles
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:50 AM - skyway1985: Would go broke in the end lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:52 AM - TriMesh: I guess if you only have a few consoles then having an RGB->YUV color space converter in the cable might save some space
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:53 AM - skyway1985: Yea, like if you only rock SFC and MD, then cool, but when you start adding in PCE NEO GEO PS1 Saturn etc
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:53 AM - MoockyLoock: yeah of course
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:53 AM - skyway1985: Then shot gets expensive, at the point. Get a comp converter and a scart switch
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:53 AM - MoockyLoock: But a lot of people look after the top-of-the-notch picture
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:53 AM - TriMesh: Or just get something like a PVM that has switchable YUV/RGB inputs
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:54 AM - skyway1985: If you have a PVM no need for the comp converter, you can enjoy good old rgb
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:55 AM - skyway1985: I know you know that tri I'm just saying
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:55 AM - TriMesh: Yeah, they are a bit big and heavy though
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:56 AM - MoockyLoock: and not that easy to find
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:56 AM - skyway1985: I wonder if the newer flat screen versions can handle the 240p rgb
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:56 AM - MoockyLoock: i mean, i good shape, and big enough
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:56 AM - TriMesh: Certainly not as easy as they used to be
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:56 AM - TriMesh: At one point, you couldn't give them away
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:57 AM - MoockyLoock: I ireally would like to get one one day
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:57 AM - MoockyLoock: good ol' CRT feelings
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:57 AM - skyway1985: I had one demoed from my Sony rep at work for a show, but didn't get a chance to test it with rgb
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:57 AM - MoockyLoock: I don't like scanlines ^^
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:57 AM - TriMesh: Around here you can also get some (older) flatscreen TVs with SCART inputs
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:57 AM - skyway1985: I'm OK with using my Sanyo 32" flat tube
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:58 AM - MoockyLoock: As i live in France, SCART are really common
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:58 AM - skyway1985: Tri your in the most confusedan TV standards place in the world
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:58 AM - TriMesh: Yeah, but it means that most TVs here support pretty much anything :)
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:58 AM - MoockyLoock: We had that NES SCART hehe
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:58 AM - skyway1985: Everything in the HK runs everything
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:59 AM - TriMesh: NTSC/PAL/NTSC3.43/SECAM
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:59 AM - MoockyLoock: What is NTSC3.43 please ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:59 AM - TriMesh: Sorry, NTSC4.43
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:59 AM - MoockyLoock: HK runs PAL60 too ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:59 AM - skyway1985: Yea
    Jul 4, 2016 at 6:59 AM - TriMesh: NTSC with a 4.43MHz color subcarrier
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:00 AM - TriMesh: Not quite - PAL60 is with with system M frame rates
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:00 AM - MoockyLoock: it's different than the standard NTSC ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:00 AM - skyway1985: Ooo
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:00 AM - TriMesh: NTSC 4.43 is NTSC, but with the PAL color subcarrier
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:00 AM - MoockyLoock: Aef
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:00 AM - MoockyLoock: use to get lost pretty often
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:00 AM - MoockyLoock: PAL, PAL60, PAL-M, and that SECAM sometime
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:00 AM - skyway1985: So ntsc with better color?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:00 AM - MoockyLoock: SECAM is a pain in the *ss
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:01 AM - TriMesh: Typically found on some old PAL VCRs when you were playing back NTSC tapes
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:01 AM - TriMesh: SECAM: The System Essentially Contrary to the American Method
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:02 AM - skyway1985: I've noticed that those shit box DVD vcr combos they sell at the Walmarts here play pal tapes fine, I almost couldn't believe it when I tested a few pal tapes I found from goodwill
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:02 AM - skyway1985: Lol tri
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:02 AM - TriMesh: Probably made in China
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:03 AM - TriMesh: Since the Chinese used CCIR frame standards
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:03 AM - skyway1985: You know it! FUNAI!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:04 AM - TriMesh: And we have the French to thank for SCART
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:04 AM - TriMesh: Othwise we would probably be stuck on Y/C like the US
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:05 AM - MoockyLoock: Ah
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:05 AM - MoockyLoock: We, French, had soùme curse like SECQAM
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:05 AM - MoockyLoock: But some good points
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:05 AM - MoockyLoock: That SCART NES
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:06 AM - MoockyLoock: That N64 NUS-001(FRA) RGB modable
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:06 AM - TriMesh: Yeah, but you also originated that Péritel standard for connecting up videotex terminals
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:06 AM - MoockyLoock: ah, it's beyond my knowledge
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:06 AM - BLUamnEsiac: Did SECAM require two tuners?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:06 AM - skyway1985: I would love to see the scart NES, too bad it probably doesn't output RGB
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:06 AM - TriMesh: Which ultimately resulted in most PAL spec TV sets having RGB inputs
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:06 AM - MoockyLoock: i doesn't output RGB fur sure
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:07 AM - TriMesh: The one I saw did - but it was a hack
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:07 AM - skyway1985: I like scart
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:07 AM - MoockyLoock: it output some weirdo composite
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:07 AM - TriMesh: It used a standard PPU then decoded it in the cable
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:07 AM - MoockyLoock: I personnaly have Tim Worthington's RGB boards
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:07 AM - MoockyLoock: with Borti's NESIGR
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:07 AM - skyway1985: Tri, couldn't have been a standard PPU they only output compshit
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:08 AM - TriMesh: Yeah, that's why there was a decoder in the cable
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:08 AM - MoockyLoock: it usually was some Playchoice PPU
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:08 AM - skyway1985: I need an nes RGB for my AV Famicom it's already socketed
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:08 AM - MoockyLoock: i think it was Moosman that worked on that mod a lot
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:08 AM - TriMesh: So it was "RGB" - but it was just decoded from composite
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:08 AM - skyway1985: So it combed through the composite signal?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:09 AM - BLUamnEsiac: I still have my aunt's vacation tape from when she visited Russia in 1999. Some how I need to get a PAL VCR or I'll end up having to pay a lot to a video conversion serivce again. :/
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:09 AM - TriMesh: Yeah - I think at that point locally generating SECAM was such a hassle they decided it was easier to just decode the composite to RGV
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:10 AM - TriMesh: Since at that time most French market TVs could only decode SECAM, not PAL or NTSC
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:10 AM - skyway1985: I'm glad the nes rgb came out though, the play choice mod was bad only because you had to sac a whole play choice for it, then the pallets where all out of whack
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:11 AM - skyway1985: Ahhh that's pretty interesting
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:11 AM - MoockyLoock: And hunting a Playchoisce was prettu hard to do
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:11 AM - BLUamnEsiac: I'm glad that even though terrestrial video may differ in regions, it's all essentially MPEG-2 or MP4 and cand be decoded by almost any computer with the right software/tuner.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:11 AM - MoockyLoock: their prices raised wuickly
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:12 AM - skyway1985: I wanted to RGB my AN-505 but if I do the AV then what's the point?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:12 AM - skyway1985: And I know it would be a little tough to fit in
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:12 AM - TriMesh: Doesn't the AN-505 have AV anyway?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:13 AM - skyway1985: Yea
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:13 AM - TriMesh: OK, I know the AN-500 did, I would have been amazed if they had deleted it...
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:14 AM - skyway1985: I meant I'd i mod my AV Famicom for RGB then what's the point of doing it to the twin
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:14 AM - skyway1985: If*
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:14 AM - TriMesh: Depends where you play your FDS games, I guess
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:15 AM - skyway1985: Well I have like 9 FDS drives right now
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:15 AM - skyway1985: Lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:15 AM - MoockyLoock: and you still can use falshcards
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:15 AM - MoockyLoock: flachcards*
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:16 AM - skyway1985: Tri depending on my mood, I either use my FDS stick with ram adapter, or drive if I just want to hear the disk spin
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:16 AM - MoockyLoock: which FDS stick do you use ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:16 AM - BLUamnEsiac: Do Flashcards add enhanced sound like FDS?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:16 AM - skyway1985: The N8s sound emu for FDS is shit
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:16 AM - skyway1985: Lol Blu I typed that before you asked
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:17 AM - skyway1985: I own the 128mb FDS stick and an N8
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:17 AM - BLUamnEsiac: I guess there's nothing quite like the real deal then. ;-P
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:17 AM - MoockyLoock: I use a Powerpak... i tired a few games, Castlevania sounds wonderful
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:17 AM - TriMesh: I guess the FDS stick should be OK - since it's using the real RAM adapter
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:17 AM - MoockyLoock: There are 2 models of FDS stick, rigth ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:17 AM - skyway1985: On top of that the extra sound channel is only audible on an AV famicom, not a twin or standard fami
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:17 AM - MoockyLoock: i mean, 2 inventors
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:18 AM - skyway1985: There's a few after the original from loopy
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:18 AM - skyway1985: I waited until they upgraded the memory
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:18 AM - skyway1985: I built the write cable so I can dump and restore disks
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:19 AM - skyway1985: It's worth the 30 dollars it costs all day everyday
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:19 AM - MoockyLoock: i think i have this one
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:19 AM - MoockyLoock: http://www.tototek.com/store/index....ducts_id=196&zenid=oinkmj3je7v33kmt0mf5jbo963
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:19 AM - MoockyLoock: but it seemed to me thare was some other models easier to use
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:20 AM - skyway1985: That's the one I have
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:20 AM - MoockyLoock: Hell, that's been too long since i used it, i forgot some things
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:20 AM - skyway1985: That is very simple to use imo
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:21 AM - skyway1985: The software has gotten a lot better with dumping
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:21 AM - skyway1985: Since the updates
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:21 AM - BLUamnEsiac: It's the best part of waking up, it's the siren of a fire truck speeding buy. Well... it wouldn't be the 4th of July without it I suppose.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:22 AM - TriMesh: I assume you can actually write to those FDS sticks?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:22 AM - TriMesh: I.E. from the Famicom
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:23 AM - MoockyLoock: Ah, i didn't get update for too long too
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:23 AM - MoockyLoock: just hcecked, whoo, i'm late to the party
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:24 AM - skyway1985: You have to load the Roms onto it from pc
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:25 AM - skyway1985: You dump Roms from it with the fds drive connected directly to the PC with a link cable
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:25 AM - skyway1985: Same to write
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:25 AM - TriMesh: OK, but can the games write to the emulated disc?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:26 AM - skyway1985: Yes and you can even dump your whole disc and write it back to an actual disk
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:26 AM - skyway1985: So your saves and everything get restored to real media
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:27 AM - TriMesh: I built something like that years ago - but it was read-only
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:27 AM - skyway1985: So like I play Zelda get second quest and all that, I can write it to a disk and then continue on a real FDS
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:28 AM - skyway1985: That's cool! I don't think I could ever design something like that
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:28 AM - TriMesh: Yeah, that's actually useful :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:29 AM - TriMesh: It's actually not that complicated, as long as you don't support writes :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:29 AM - skyway1985: That's where it gets hairy I'm sure, much more complicated routines
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:30 AM - TriMesh: Yeah, all you need to do for read-only is to to send out a sequence of bits
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:30 AM - TriMesh: And you can store everything (including the format overhead) in the file
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:31 AM - TriMesh: To handle read/write, you need to actually understand the disc format
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:32 AM - skyway1985: You have to tell it to write to certain sectors in the file etc, and have to emulate exactly how it's done on real hardware
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:32 AM - skyway1985: So you would really have to know it from the inside out
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:32 AM - skyway1985: Or you would end up with some corrupted file
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:33 AM - TriMesh: It's not too bad, because there is quite a bit of padding in the track
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:33 AM - skyway1985: Fds is just a fancy tape deck
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:33 AM - skyway1985: That's why I'm sureprised no one talks about demagnetizing the heads on old units
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:34 AM - skyway1985: I do it to every one I service
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:34 AM - TriMesh: Yeah, basically - it's just a tape arranged in a spiral
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:35 AM - skyway1985: My write unit gets a once over every few months to keep thinges going since I use mine ALOT
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:35 AM - skyway1985: I've had a few not work at first because of having heavily magnetized heads
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:36 AM - skyway1985: Just a lot of disks ran through it in its lifting I suppose
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:36 AM - S&K1994: Hey guys :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:36 AM - skyway1985: Lifetime *
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:36 AM - skyway1985: Hola
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:36 AM - skyway1985: Que tal
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:36 AM - S&K1994: How we all doing? I'm new to this site, just signed up today, actually
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:36 AM - MoockyLoock: So welcome
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:37 AM - S&K1994: Still getting to grips with where everything is
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:37 AM - skyway1985: Cool man enjoy, lots of knowledge here
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:37 AM - S&K1994: thank you :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:37 AM - S&K1994: I look forward to learning, trying to hunt down of few pieces for my collection
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:37 AM - TriMesh: We don't bite that much!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:37 AM - S&K1994: haha ;D
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:38 AM - skyway1985: What you rock with? I rock EVERYTHING and I'm not kidding....
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:38 AM - S&K1994: Thats good to know :) at the moment I'm trying to hunt down a few Sonic 2 pirate cartridges
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:38 AM - skyway1985: I'm moving on to MSX after I finish my NEO-GEO hardware
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:39 AM - skyway1985: From where? And what vintage?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:39 AM - S&K1994: However, I'm not sure where to start looking or who is best to contact :/
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:39 AM - MoockyLoock: the better start would be to contact you bank
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:39 AM - MoockyLoock: :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:39 AM - TriMesh: Well, try sticking a request on the WTB forum
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:40 AM - skyway1985: That'd a bit rough, is it a hack on a pirate cart from back in the day? Is it vanilla sonic 2 on a weird cart?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:40 AM - S&K1994: haha, oh man :/ had a feeling I may have to shift a few coin to find one :/
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:40 AM - TriMesh: There used to be lots of pirate carts here - but they are getting hard to find now
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:40 AM - S&K1994: I'm after any really, I know that some contain the infamous 'Simon Wei' prototype build of Sonic 2
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:41 AM - skyway1985: Pirate MD catridges are an aliexpress click away lol but if it's a 90s one may be rough
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:41 AM - S&K1994: Others contain the fully licensed version of the game, I'm guessing the latter would demand a pretty penny or two
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:41 AM - skyway1985: You can just get one made if you want it bad enough
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:41 AM - skyway1985: 15 on Ali express, you email them the rom lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:42 AM - MoockyLoock: but that won't be a legit pirate
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:42 AM - TriMesh: I love the idea of a "legit pirate" :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:42 AM - MoockyLoock: :]
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:42 AM - S&K1994: Yeah I know, unfortunately for me (and my bank) I'm after an original pirate front he 90s :/
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:42 AM - skyway1985: How is a pirate not a legit pirate moocky
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:42 AM - skyway1985: Lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:42 AM - S&K1994: haha me too ;D
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:42 AM - TriMesh: I think he means "contemporary bootleg"
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:42 AM - MoockyLoock: :D
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:43 AM - skyway1985: I know what ya mean you want that old school board with actual chips, I used to be an old school multo cart fanatic
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:43 AM - skyway1985: Multi
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:43 AM - S&K1994: Yeah, I just want one of the original pirate copies (oh, the irony of the that)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:43 AM - TriMesh: The only ones you seem to still find around here are pirate Game Boy carts
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:43 AM - skyway1985: I sold them all on ebay when I got my everdrives
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:44 AM - skyway1985: Tri lives in Hong Kong btw
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:44 AM - TriMesh: There used to be lots of bootleg MD/SFC carts, but they seem to have gone
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:45 AM - TriMesh: Yeah, pirate center of the world back in the 16 bit era !
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:45 AM - skyway1985: It's just the change in time Tri, shit's not as easy to come by
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:45 AM - S&K1994: I'm from the UK... all auction sites here are just filled with the pesky, licensed version of the game!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:45 AM - MoockyLoock: That makes me thnk 'out some strange PS1 CD i have, a Breath Of Fire III but the print is so crappy it must be a pirate
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:45 AM - skyway1985: Moocky, if it boots on real hardware.... lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:45 AM - MoockyLoock: i should post some pics one day, i never investigated 'bout this game
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:45 AM - skyway1985: With no chip should I say
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:46 AM - TriMesh: That would be unusual
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:46 AM - S&K1994: Thanks for the warm reception, but the way guys - I'm gonna head off for a bit. Was nice talking to you all :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:46 AM - Kappa: russians made lots of bootable bootlegs
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:46 AM - TriMesh: I have lots of "HK Silvers" - but they all need chipped console
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:46 AM - skyway1985: How did datel make the AR boot?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:46 AM - MoockyLoock: Yeah, even for a noob lik eme, this CD looks pagan
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:46 AM - TriMesh: Have a good one!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:46 AM - S&K1994: you too :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:46 AM - skyway1985: Take it easy S&k
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:46 AM - TriMesh: They bought a glass mastering machine from Sony DADC :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:46 AM - MoockyLoock: see ya
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:47 AM - skyway1985: Seriously!?!?!? Lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:47 AM - sp193: @MoockyLoock: where were we?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:47 AM - MoockyLoock: i'll try to take some pics this afternoon
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:47 AM - TriMesh: Well, not actually "Datel" - it was a company called 'Thin Ice Media'
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:47 AM - TriMesh: Maybe they figured that Sony wouldn't sell it to them if they realized who it was going to :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:48 AM - MoockyLoock: @sp193, we were at "are those HD Retrovision really useful, or the RGB curse and fate of our beloved console"
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:48 AM - skyway1985: So they could have stomped out true bootlegs if they were that unscrupulous
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:48 AM - TriMesh: Yeah, absolutely
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:48 AM - MoockyLoock: unfortunatly, i don't have the box or booklet, only disc
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:48 AM - skyway1985: Holy shit that's cool, lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:49 AM - sp193: @Moocky: did you understand what I meant? If you could already use RGB/component, what's the point behind the HD Retrovision?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:49 AM - skyway1985: You think Sony would question them ...... like who contracts their disc manufacturing to you etc
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:49 AM - TriMesh: I think that's one of the reasons nobody ever when after Datel
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:49 AM - MoockyLoock: to connect simply i think
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:49 AM - MoockyLoock: to hook your console to your flat screen easily, with a good picture
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:49 AM - TriMesh: They tried to stay on the legal side, but they would have been very dangerous if cornered :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:50 AM - skyway1985: It's just an RGB to Component Converter!!! Lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:50 AM - Kappa: sony could question them but why would you tell them you was offering a service to people like them
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:50 AM - Kappa: they woulds probably lose out as well then
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:50 AM - skyway1985: Moocky you could make your own universal cable.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:50 AM - TriMesh: I think they were making their own discs
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:51 AM - TriMesh: They also figured out how to make Gamecube discs without using a laser to burn the BCA
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:52 AM - MoockyLoock: dunno skyway1985.. i'm not deep in tech knowledge
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:52 AM - MoockyLoock: i can read a tut', and know which side of an iron is hot
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:52 AM - skyway1985: Get those small rgb to comp boards they sell for like the pc engine, and install scary on one end, comp on the other
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:52 AM - TriMesh: They must have had some very smart people working for them
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:52 AM - Kaida: never got what was so special about the BCA...
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:52 AM - skyway1985: Make a small box
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:53 AM - skyway1985: Tri, they had some smart English people working for them ;)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:53 AM - MoockyLoock: If it was that easy, so why there isn't many tut' and DIY ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:53 AM - TriMesh: It's just that you can customize it with a laser after the disc has been pressed
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:53 AM - skyway1985: Because its really that easy, check out the boards
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:54 AM - MoockyLoock: i'll give a try
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:54 AM - MoockyLoock: 'should look for a guinea pig
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:54 AM - MoockyLoock: there are some SNES already moddable for YUV
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:54 AM - sp193: Oh lol. I've finally got what this product is about. Thanks.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:54 AM - TriMesh: Only Datel didn't want to be bothered with that, so the figured out how to master the disc with what looked like laser marks on it
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:54 AM - MoockyLoock: something as quite easy as connect wires
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:55 AM - skyway1985: http://www.tg16pcemods.com/rgb-to-component-converter-v-20.html
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:55 AM - MoockyLoock: but i fried mine... the video chip was a bit rusty, and solder would'nt attach to it... it finally died from overheat
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:55 AM - MoockyLoock: i think
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:56 AM - skyway1985: This works on more than just the pce
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:56 AM - sp193: This thing isn't different from using a RGB to component converter, with RGB input. Its name is just misleading.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:56 AM - skyway1985: So you could construct a pretty universal device
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:56 AM - MoockyLoock: yeah, but it's told to be exclusively for NEC systems
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:56 AM - MoockyLoock: coudl it be some resistors values issues for other console ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:57 AM - MoockyLoock: For exemple, those resistor value were something really discussed for the N64 RGB mod
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:57 AM - sp193: RGB output is standardized.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:58 AM - MoockyLoock: and it's something to know 'bout NTSC/PAL S-Video N64
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:59 AM - MoockyLoock: Wel... anyway, we should move to HDMI
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:59 AM - skyway1985: That's when you are actually modding it. Now this does amplify the rgb signal you tap from the PCE so that may be an issue....
    Jul 4, 2016 at 7:59 AM - MoockyLoock: :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:00 AM - MoockyLoock: your RGB-to-YUV discussion makes me think 'bout Tim'RGB board
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:00 AM - MoockyLoock: his YUV daughter board looks really simple
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:00 AM - skyway1985: Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/371647985464
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:00 AM - skyway1985: This is what I use, I just added audio RCA out to mine
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:01 AM - MoockyLoock: i have one pretty like this
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:01 AM - skyway1985: I doubt retrovison would look much better
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:02 AM - skyway1985: WAIT.... you're in france..... your tvsupport support RGB don't they?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:02 AM - skyway1985: Minus one support.... lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:02 AM - MoockyLoock: i use this adapter mostly with my PS1, as its RGB signal is really badly handled by my flast screeen
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:02 AM - skyway1985: Ahhh
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:02 AM - sp193: What's wrong about it?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:03 AM - MoockyLoock: support doesn't mean support correctly
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:03 AM - skyway1985: LOL
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:03 AM - skyway1985: I feel ya
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:03 AM - MoockyLoock: color are bleeding, and the picture seems to be double a bit
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:03 AM - sp193: Isn't that due to bad cabling? It's ghosting, isn't it?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:03 AM - MoockyLoock: My NESRGB looks pixel sharp
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:03 AM - skyway1985: I'm just waiting for a spare 50 to RGB my PCE
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:03 AM - MoockyLoock: ke on emulator
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:04 AM - MoockyLoock: ghosting and slightly bleeding color
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:04 AM - sp193: Have you tried a different cable?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:04 AM - skyway1985: Has to do with how the TV handles the sync too.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:04 AM - MoockyLoock: i tried 2 official PS1 RGB cables, and a aftermarket PS2 one
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:04 AM - sp193: But would sync problems cause ghosting?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:04 AM - MoockyLoock: some console look wonderful, some so crappy
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM - MoockyLoock: there are some other issue with those RGB cables
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM - MoockyLoock: some aarea are full with snow
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM - MoockyLoock: yeah, you read right
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM - skyway1985: I had a jp21 cable that a friend on here gave me, and it had the the sync changed and it looked good, my scary ps1 cable looked good on that converter but not my xrgb
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:06 AM - MoockyLoock: for exemple, playing that "lemmings 'venture game"
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:06 AM - MoockyLoock: can't remember its name
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:06 AM - MoockyLoock: rhaaaa
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:06 AM - MoockyLoock: Lomax !
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:06 AM - sp193: Well, sorry to hear that.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:07 AM - skyway1985: I use a ps3 TEST to play ps1 and ps2 games through HDMI 480p and I've been pretty satisfied with that
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:07 AM - MoockyLoock: playing Lomax, some area of the screen got parasited with snow, like old RF with no signals
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:07 AM - MoockyLoock: that's the only console that do it
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:07 AM - skyway1985: Tri, you got any more debuggers hidden? Lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:08 AM - MoockyLoock: so the SCART-HDMI converetr
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:08 AM - skyway1985: I don't like those converters, introduce lag, no lag with rgb to comp
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:09 AM - skyway1985: I really want a blue DTL with s-video out
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:09 AM - MoockyLoock: I really want a Jaguar CD
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:09 AM - skyway1985: Lol good ol toilet bowl
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:09 AM - MoockyLoock: Ah, i thought it was the "really want time"
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:09 AM - skyway1985: I had one, sold it like 10years ago
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:09 AM - MoockyLoock: :D
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM - skyway1985: :p
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM - MoockyLoock: there is one selling on the Bay
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM - MoockyLoock: 500$
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM - MoockyLoock: :/
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM - skyway1985: Moocky, I wanted a test really bad, like it was my end all be all
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM - MoockyLoock: can't afford
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM - TriMesh: no more debugs I know about
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:11 AM - skyway1985: Now I have one, and I want more lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:11 AM - skyway1985: WOW 500?????
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:11 AM - MoockyLoock: i'm not too much in debug/dev console
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:11 AM - MoockyLoock: yeah 500, but it's in mint condotion, boxed
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:11 AM - skyway1985: I sold a jaguar with embossed rental case, I mean super rare, and jag cd in box for 175
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:11 AM - skyway1985: On ebay, ten years ago....
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:12 AM - TriMesh: ebay seems to be mostly stupid prices now
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:12 AM - Nopileus: RIP little saturn
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:12 AM - Nopileus: damn you autocomplete
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:12 AM - skyway1985: I was kidding Tri, now if I hadn't found that dream cast on ebay... I'd still be bugging ya
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:12 AM - Nopileus: just RIP lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:12 AM - TriMesh: Like "will never sell at this" prices
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:12 AM - sp193: What happened?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:12 AM - skyway1985: Nopi!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:12 AM - skyway1985: You didn't kill your model 1 did ya?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:13 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: eBays was agreat place for deals. eBays was seen as a place to make money. People increased price. People still assume it's a deal. It sells. People don't lower prices.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:13 AM - TriMesh: Well, as it happens I did find a VA0 with a bad drive
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:13 AM - skyway1985: Tri I know... it's crazy,
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:13 AM - Nopileus: nah it autocompleted without asking me
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:13 AM - Nopileus: was just saying RIP cause of your jaguar sell
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:13 AM - sp193: Well done, autocomplete.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:13 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: How rude autocomplete.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:13 AM - skyway1985: Oooo lol
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:14 AM - skyway1985: I'm not salty about it, I liked the Jag, but it was a software desert
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:14 AM - sp193: The stuff on eBay seem to be going for 5x the amount that I got my consoles for. :/
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:14 AM - sp193: VGA is not helping. haha
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:15 AM - skyway1985: Tri, I would still like the board :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:15 AM - skyway1985: Spares are always welcomed
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:15 AM - TriMesh: I liked the Jag toilet - just because it's such an absurd piece of industrial design
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:15 AM - MoockyLoock: yeah, such as 32X
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:15 AM - skyway1985: Yes it was a sharp looking unit
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:15 AM - skyway1985: Over the top
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:15 AM - skyway1985: Talk about the Oval office, or the throne... lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:16 AM - Nopileus: the throne of judgement
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:16 AM - skyway1985: Speaking of Add-ons, which is your favorite and what console?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:16 AM - MoockyLoock: 'bout strange console, i would like a Tiger R-Zone too :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:17 AM - MoockyLoock: Add-ons console ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:17 AM - Nopileus: always the one i don't have ha!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:17 AM - MoockyLoock: or Add-ons for console ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:17 AM - TriMesh: The worst thing about it was the decision to ignore the CD-ROM ECC/EDC
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:17 AM - skyway1985: RomRom for the PC-engine is my favorite design
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:18 AM - skyway1985: MegaCD model is second
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:18 AM - MoockyLoock: TriMesh... you always have to raise the chitchat level that high tech ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:18 AM - skyway1985: Model1*
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:18 AM - TriMesh: So if you looked at the disc in the wrong way, it ruined it
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:18 AM - Nopileus: model 1 sega cd is ace, super classy
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:18 AM - skyway1985: He's an Engineer moocky
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:18 AM - MoockyLoock: I know^^
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:19 AM - MoockyLoock: but he hsould think 'bout little fellow like me :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:19 AM - skyway1985: You mean the error rate on the drive?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:19 AM - skyway1985: For the jag cd?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:19 AM - skyway1985: So disk has the slightest scratch, the mech can't cope?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:20 AM - TriMesh: Yeah - even very minor damage will render the disc unreadable
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:20 AM - MoockyLoock: I personnaly have a crush for the N64 copier design
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:21 AM - skyway1985: Wow I didn't know that....
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:21 AM - MoockyLoock: The top ones
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:21 AM - MoockyLoock: mostly
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:21 AM - skyway1985: Like the z64?
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:21 AM - skyway1985: I want to get another N64 but I don't, I don't have an emotional connect to it like my saturn, or NeoGeo
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:22 AM - MoockyLoock: yeah, or the Supercom Partner
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:22 AM - Nopileus: http://imgur.com/AoW83rH i'm a silly man, the fan cost almost as much as the card
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:22 AM - skyway1985: Those all were cool copiers
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:22 AM - MoockyLoock: or even the TriStar (not really a copier, but such piece of hardware)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:22 AM - Nopileus: on the plus side it's not bursting my eardrums anymore so that's cool
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:23 AM - skyway1985: Nopi, your fan on your old card gave up the ghost?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:23 AM - Nopileus: the bearing was shot, yeah
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:24 AM - skyway1985: Tristar was some fucking crazy as hardware, but I know it doesn't play castlevania 3 right
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:24 AM - skyway1985: Sounds like tar on the last one I used
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:24 AM - Nopileus: note that card is from 2002 and in a windows 98 box, not my actual pc
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:25 AM - skyway1985: Dude I knew that as soon as I saw AGP lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:25 AM - Nopileus: good good
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:25 AM - skyway1985: Those Tristars were pretty easy to find here when they came out
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:25 AM - MoockyLoock: Now you'de better hunt for a unicorn
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:25 AM - skyway1985: Lots of them died from crap manufacturing quality
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:25 AM - Nopileus: recapped the board, put everything in a nicer case and fixed the fan, good times
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:26 AM - skyway1985: There's one o ebay for 500, and for that price..... no thanks....
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:27 AM - skyway1985: Man I'm excited to have an AES again, I had one years ago and sold it, got it for nothing with a box full of games, damn things are gold now
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:27 AM - MoockyLoock: 500 Oo
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:27 AM - MoockyLoock: WHOO
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:27 AM - skyway1985: Another thing I sold and wish I didnt
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:27 AM - MoockyLoock: i don't have NEoGeo
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM - MoockyLoock: Only a game i found at flea market
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM - MoockyLoock: ^^
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM - MoockyLoock: Actually, i don't have many japanese console
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM - skyway1985: Lol if I find anything neo now, I just buy it
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM - MoockyLoock: as often, you need to read japan...
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM - Nopileus: neo flashcarts when lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM - skyway1985: Everything I have is japanese
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM - MoockyLoock: I have a few anyway
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:29 AM - MoockyLoock: Neogeo Pocket Color
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:29 AM - MoockyLoock: Some WonderSwan
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:29 AM - MoockyLoock: and a PC-FX
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:29 AM - skyway1985: If bung did it, I don't know why it hasn't been done again
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:29 AM - skyway1985: I sold my ff1 wonders want to Dig mac on here
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:29 AM - skyway1985: Wonderswan ** dan auto correct
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:30 AM - Kaida: what autocorrect software are you guys using?!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:30 AM - skyway1985: Samsung! I'm on my phone
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:31 AM - skyway1985: Those bung game doctors are fucking astronomical in price!!!!!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:31 AM - skyway1985: The MGD2 I should say
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:31 AM - skyway1985: The neo go add-on is almost always 1000+ if you find it
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:32 AM - skyway1985: I wonder of you could ever expand it to support really big games
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:32 AM - skyway1985: It would have to be fpga based now though to have true compatibility
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:32 AM - MoockyLoock: dunno, i have a few of old copier
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:32 AM - MoockyLoock: mostly SNES and Genesis
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:32 AM - skyway1985: Lots of neo games use custom pcm sound chips too
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:33 AM - MoockyLoock: and N64 too, i frogat
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:33 AM - MoockyLoock: forgot
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:33 AM - skyway1985: Still looking for a Venus turbo game doctor 6m+
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:33 AM - skyway1985: For famicom
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:33 AM - MoockyLoock: I am looking for the Supercom Partner 64 personnaly
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:34 AM - MoockyLoock: known as Wildcard
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:34 AM - MoockyLoock: by looking, i mean, i won' t sell my children for it, that's said
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:35 AM - skyway1985: Have you been hunting on tototek?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:35 AM - MoockyLoock: sometimes
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:35 AM - skyway1985: Poo
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:35 AM - skyway1985: Ooo not poo lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:35 AM - MoockyLoock: but it's been wa while didn't wander on the forum
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:35 AM - MoockyLoock: cildren...poo... that was pretty easy
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:36 AM - MoockyLoock: damn, i mistype badly today
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:37 AM - MoockyLoock: last thing i found is a GameBoy Advance AGS-101
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:37 AM - MoockyLoock: it's been a while i wanted one
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:37 AM - MoockyLoock: 'finally failed to resist
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:37 AM - MoockyLoock: Haha
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:38 AM - MoockyLoock: end of the month will be potato and noodle
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:38 AM - MoockyLoock: . . .
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:38 AM - skyway1985: Aye, no paté?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:38 AM - skyway1985: ;)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:39 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Paté with beurre and tartines?
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:39 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: "Spaghetti au beurre"
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:39 AM - skyway1985: FG you french Canadian!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:39 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Sounds fancy, cheap AF.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:39 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: ;)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:39 AM - skyway1985: Lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:39 AM - MoockyLoock: Paté with beurre ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:39 AM - MoockyLoock: oO
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:40 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Spaghetti with butter, feeding poor students since 1972.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:40 AM - MoockyLoock: and flakes
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:40 AM - MoockyLoock: don't forget the flakes
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:40 AM - skyway1985: Totally, I like my noodles to be egg when I do the buttered noodles
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:41 AM - LeHaM: [​IMG]
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:41 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Potato+Noodle = gnocci!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:41 AM - LeHaM: http://gamedoctorhk.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=72_94_95&products_id=1874
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:41 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: *gnocchi
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:41 AM - skyway1985: LeHaM it's a playdia
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:41 AM - skyway1985: What's up?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:41 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: I thikn he knew that, he can rea.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:41 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: read*.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:41 AM - LeHaM: never heard of it
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:42 AM - skyway1985: WHAT?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:42 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: It's because reading doesn't make much noise.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:42 AM - skyway1985: FG I was leading up to the question
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:42 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: And I'm messing around.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:42 AM - skyway1985: ..... donthe go all dechief on us now
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:42 AM - LeHaM: shit I gotta get a playdia now!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:42 AM - skyway1985: Lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:43 AM - skyway1985: Playdía has some cool lititle games
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:43 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: @sky, the only DC in my life is the DreamCast.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:43 AM - skyway1985: Lol
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:43 AM - MoockyLoock: Playdia, Pippin... some obscure console
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:44 AM - LeHaM: crap looking controller though
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:44 AM - MoockyLoock: :]
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:44 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: And maybe Washington. I should totally go to Washington.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:44 AM - skyway1985: You know how chief always has to be a smart ass,
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:44 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: It's the internet. It's not the real life.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:45 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: ™
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:45 AM - skyway1985: Lol trademarked to FG
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:45 AM - skyway1985: FG I know man I was kidding too
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:46 AM - skyway1985: Plus I don't want to fuck up my knowledge base for my DC mods :D
    Jul 4, 2016 at 8:56 AM - Nopileus: dc mods? nobody would do that *cough*
    Jul 4, 2016 at 9:14 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: BTW, the ™ was applied to "real life" not the whole sentence.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 9:29 AM - TriMesh: I thought "real life" was (tm) and (c) GetMeTheHellOutOfHere Inc.?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM - MoockyLoock: Hey TriMesh, in which domain are you ingeneer ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 9:39 AM - TriMesh: Electronic
    Jul 4, 2016 at 9:44 AM - MoockyLoock: vast domain indeed
    Jul 4, 2016 at 9:58 AM - BLUamnEsiac: I bet that field has been a fun ride the past few decades
    Jul 4, 2016 at 9:59 AM - TriMesh: It's been interesting
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:00 AM - TriMesh: Although it's getting harder and harder for an old guy like me to keep up...
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:02 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Even young folks have trouble keeping up Tri.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:02 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: "Science" is going so fast nowadays.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:03 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Although I like 70s article more than anything. Succinct, complete, straight to the point and comprehensible.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:05 AM - LeHaM: has anyone tries putting an xbox 360 0808 drive in an xbox one?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:06 AM - BLUamnEsiac: Nope. Does XBOX One use FATX?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:07 AM - TriMesh: Aperture Science. We do what we must because we can.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:08 AM - TriMesh: For the good of All Of Us...
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:08 AM - TriMesh: ...except t he ones who are dead
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:13 AM - BLUamnEsiac: Such a quirky and dark slogan.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:21 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: And accurate too.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:21 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Never in my life did I laugh so much than after finishing portal in one standing and listening to the credits. I literally almost felt down from my chair.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:21 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: It was awesome and now I'll never relive that again.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:21 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: :(
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:22 AM - MoockyLoock: Why so funny ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:22 AM - MoockyLoock didn't play Portal, both of them
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:25 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Play the first one in a sitting. It's hilarious. GlaDOS is the best comedian ever.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:26 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Must admit that part of the experience was not expecting it to be funny. Most games are serious, and even the portal trailers weren't that much on the comedic side.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:27 AM - MoockyLoock: But, was that game intended to be funny ?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:27 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Yeah totally.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:27 AM - MoockyLoock: i don't remember of any comdy
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:27 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Really dark comedy from GlaDOS.
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:27 AM - MoockyLoock: Damn i totally missed that side of thi sgame
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:27 AM - MoockyLoock: i mean, with trailer and news
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:28 AM - MoockyLoock: i didn't play it
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:28 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: "We do what we must, because we can. For the good of all of us... except the ones who are dead."
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:28 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: That's the kinda humour you'll get.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:28 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Totally worth it btw, a great puzzle/funny game.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:29 AM - Kaida: "But The Science Gets Done and We make a neat gun. For the people who are still aliveee...."
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:29 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: It gets increasingly cringy, very well amde.é
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:30 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: I’m not even angry. I’m being so sincere right now. Even though you broke my heart. And killed me. And tore me to pieces. And threw every piece into a fire.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:30 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: As they burned it hurt because I was so happy for you!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:31 AM - MoockyLoock: Thanks for your advice
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:31 AM - MoockyLoock: I'll give a try
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:31 AM - MoockyLoock: time to go
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:31 AM - MoockyLoock: See ya !
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:41 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: I love the Portal series! Every now and then I'll fire up Portal 2 on steam and play some community maps from the workshop. They can get pretty fun
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:43 AM - CodeAsm: i want to play em again... but you cant experiance the first experiance again right?... maybe ill let mybwive play it and sit next to her, without saying anything ofcoarse.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:43 AM - TriMesh: I cannot lie to you. When the testing is over you will be ... missed
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:43 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: Lol tri
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:44 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: CodeAsm, try the community maps on the steam version. Some of them are just as good as the singleplayer maps
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:51 AM - LeHaM: So you can get AGS101 LCDS on Aliexpress now
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:51 AM - Borman: Anyone know the easiest way to take a PS2 game that is still a .elf plus data and make it into something a bit more usable?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:53 AM - LeHaM: They are new not pulled it seems, no manufacture logos or anything
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:53 AM - LeHaM: Only about $70AUD too!!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:55 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: "This challenge is impossible"
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:55 AM - XboxSurgeon: [​IMG]
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:55 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: "This next challenge is impossible."
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:55 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Ever seen the fireworks that go up, down, then up again? Impressive shits.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:55 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: BTW, fireworks are a nightmare for people with young kids and pets.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:56 AM - XboxSurgeon: Or peeps with ptsd
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:56 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: First time there were fireworks next to my apartment we were all praising the dog and giving it treats so it likes it in the future.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:57 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: But outside you could hear barking for an good hour.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:57 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: The USA turns 240 today
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:57 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: My window is so close to the fireworks you can feel it shake.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:58 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: 240 years is a big achievement for any country
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:58 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Nope.
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:58 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Most countries are much older than that MBJ...
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:59 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: I know, I was trying to give some optimism...
    Jul 4, 2016 at 10:59 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Even our state capital is 400 yo.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:00 AM - BLUamnEsiac: Some UK pubs might have window glass older than 240. ;-P
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:01 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Luxor, egypt has been continuously inhabited for over 5000 years.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:01 AM - BLUamnEsiac: The scary thing is how our young nation acquired power in such a short time.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:02 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: If history is a good reference, it won't be for long...
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:02 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: (although it will be for longer than we will live probably)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:02 AM - BLUamnEsiac: No big power lasts, that's definitely right.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:03 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: Today is a special day so let's bring some optimism into this
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:03 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: We're in the first global society.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:03 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Probably not the last.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:03 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: But hey we still got corn dogs and beers, and pools and flags and stuff.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:03 AM - BLUamnEsiac: Hopefully not the last, assuming we or future generations don't ruin things.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:04 AM - Gameboi64: Yo
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:04 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: At worse, the population will decline and it'll be the middle age again. Then there'll be a rerenaissance and it'll start over.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: My optimisc 2¢, just for you MBJ!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: Does that mean I could do renaissance painting in a new renaissance era?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM - Agent21KGB: at best zombie appocolipse
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: :D
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: You could redo renaissance paintings in the rerenaissance.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: D:
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: Yes!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM - Agent21KGB: nope
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: :D
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM - Agent21KGB: zombies
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: Zombie painters!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Nobody said humans will be in the rerenaisance.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:06 AM - BLUamnEsiac: Only if you outlive society collapse and make it to the restructuring.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:06 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: Renaissance Zombie painters to be precise
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:06 AM - Agent21KGB: and terminator robots
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:06 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Dinausaurs dominated the earth for millions of years before us. We're probably dominant for a few millions of years maximum too.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:06 AM - Agent21KGB: nope
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:06 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Maybe birds will take over and it'll be dinosaurs all over again.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:06 AM - Agent21KGB: zombies takin over
     
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    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:06 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Zombie dinosaurs?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:07 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: That's totally a thing.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:07 AM - Agent21KGB: possible
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:07 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: Zombie bird Dinosaurs
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:07 AM - Agent21KGB: could be a new jurrasic park movie
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:07 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: birds == dinosaurs.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:07 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Seriously.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:07 AM - Agent21KGB: clearly the last one showed they were out of ideas
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:07 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: They totally need to do that
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:07 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: I know birds are dinos
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:08 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: World War Z, The dinosaurs strike back!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:08 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: The closest relative to the T-Rex is a chicken iirc
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:08 AM - TriMesh: T-Rex Chicken Zombies!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:08 AM - Kaida: fun-size Dinos?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:08 AM - Agent21KGB: no the andromedia rex
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:08 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: Imagine a giant chicken with teeth. That's T-Rex
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:09 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Yep. Tyrannosaurs are ancestors to modern birds, although not T-Rex directly. They have a common ancestor.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:09 AM - BLUamnEsiac: If people can't at least colonize the moon, there's little hope of escaping a mass extinction event as a species.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:09 AM - TriMesh: Hey stop being sensible :)
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:09 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: A lean, free-run T-Rex with teeth!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:09 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: Tastes like chicken too!
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:09 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: The sun will explode in a few billion years.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:10 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: There's really no realistic hope for survival.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:10 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: What if we move away by then?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:10 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: We'd have to develop interstellar travels and self-sufficiency in deep space...
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:10 AM - BLUamnEsiac: Exactly, babysteps. Moon, Mars, and with luck, out of the solar system. So... I don't like our odds.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:10 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: a lot can happen in a few billion years
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:11 AM - Kaida: And very little can happen as well..
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:11 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Which is really unrealistic when you think about it. We'd have to spend millions of years in a spaceship...
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:11 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: Given what my car looks like after 10 years...
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:11 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: Well, we need to get on that then
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:11 AM - Agent21KGB: zombie dinos in space?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:11 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: What if we developed faster than light travel?
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:11 AM - -=FamilyGuy=-: That can't be done.
    Jul 4, 2016 at 11:11 AM - MonkeyBoyJoey: I like that idea agent!
     

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