Sega Saturn Region Free BIOS

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  1. Druid II

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    Socketed bios in VA0 machines is uncommon but normal. Some units even have socketed EPROMs.
     
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    Thank you bud for shooting me a PM :).

    From my experience, the bios chip in a VA0 motherboard comes socketed (My personal Saturn), but the 2 other VA0.8 Saturn motherboard's i have come across were not socketed (Now they are).

    So over all i'm guessing this

    VA0 Saturns = Comes with socketed bios
    VA0.8 Saturns = Bios soldered directly on the motherboard
     
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    Cool. I guess they stopped doing it early in the consoles life to save money as it was pretty pointless. It's going to make it really easy to replace though.
     
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    Here is some info for anybody interested in looking to get the right bios for their Saturn without opening up your Saturn. For model 1 Saturn's, you can identify which type you need just by looking at the power port (See pic below). For Model 2's they are all SMD.

    Early Model 1 Saturns (DIP Bios) Vs. Later Model 1 Saturns (SMD Bios)

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    Yeah, the VA0s all had DIP bios and top-mounted power supplies, which had that taller power connector. This is true for Japanese and pal units too.

    I have seen VA0 USA machines that weren't socketed, and also VA0.8 ones which were. Makes little difference ultimately.
     
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    They have been posted in this thread, along with others too.
     
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    Do we have a full list of them?
     
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    Okay.

    For patching you only change 3 locations, right? And out of those, only the first 2 matter, the third is the (non-functional) security check patch.
    Just cause I patched and burned a bios with only the first two locations patched, and it still worked fine.
     
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    Correct, just like d4s's original patches.
     
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    thank you
     
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    Trivial to patch the BIOS yourself with a hex editor if you don't like the idea of an executable doing the work for you.
     
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    after you apply patch, there needs to swap bytes before the programmed?
     
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    Hey guys, I am a brand new user and I signed up because I have a question about BIOS modding on the Saturn. I recently picked up a model 2 NTSC-U Saturn, and I was originally just going to use an action replay, but since I am planning to install a mod chip for CD-R backups anyway, I figure I might as well go all the way and make a true region-free Saturn that can also play backups.

    My dilemma is this: I really, REALLY don't want to remove the original BIOS chip. My ideal would be to piggyback the region free chip top of the stock one, and have a discretely mounted switch for changing between them, like the Dreamcast BIOS mod. For one, I don't like that screechy Japanese bootup jingle, and want the ability to go back to the more pleasant American one-- secondly, in the event that the flash chip ever goes bad the future, it would be far easier to safely remove if it is NOT soldered directly to the motherboard. I do not want to risk lifting/stripping any pads. I would vastly prefer to able to reverse the mod if ever necessary, and at very least be to easily switch between the US and region free BIOS.
     
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    If you don't want to remove the BIOS chip and don't like the Japanese BIOS, why are you considering doing a BIOS swap? Just install region switches as per the mods back in the days when the Saturn was still on shelves.
     
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    If you don't like the Japanese jingle then just install a modded US bios...
     
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    Funny I find the export Saturn bios EXTREMELY ANNOYING. lol

    That's the main reason why I keep a early Gray VA0 saturn as my personal Saturn unit ... lol
     

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