Hidden stuff in dummy files

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  1. pool7

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    Mods - Not sure if this is the place for this thread, so feel free to move it as needed.

    I recently read that the dummy files in the Bloody Roar 4 for PS2 were in fact a zip file containing Renderware SDK.
    I'm sure I read about one or two similar cases (maybe a dummy file containing some source code) in other games/platforms, though can't remember the details.

    I tried doing some searches, but my google-fu is failing me.

    Is there a list of such "fails" somewhere?
    Or maybe we can use this thread to create such list?
     
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    The most famous one was that the dummy file on Konami's _Beatmania Best Hits_ was the complete source code for the Beatmania 5th mix append disc.
     
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    Don't know of any such list - so why not start one?

    The Windows XP setup disc has (an encrypted version of) Microsoft Bob in a padding file. Unfortunately(?) you can't get to it, because the encryption key was random keyboard mashing.
     
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    The best one was the south park episode on a NBA game I think.

    Edit: Nope Tiger Woods
     
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  5. tossen

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    Well look like you're just like me I find the renderwate in the dummy files and I want to use it with the Ps2 sdk so I can make some games
    And I was looking for the same thing and I find this I hope it will help you
    http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=1627328
     
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    That's some great VHS quality there :p

    Looks like we're onto something with a list.
     
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    Never really found much in dummy files (because usually I assume they're just there for space occupancy) but if I had to make an assumption, a lot of dreamcast games could potentially have some stuff in there.
     
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    The layer fill .bin files on the Saints Row 1 disc seem to be actual binary data but I haven't looked into it much :p
     
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    It's not crazy uncommon for game dummy files to contain actual data (usually random video or repeat files). I think I did this once or twice in a ps1 title. I think eventually devs stop being so dumb and just created zeroed out files instead.
     
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    Can't remember which was which but Giants Citizen Kabuto and Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force both have large padding files with text in them. One is "FUCKFUCKFUCK" over and over for 300mb. The other has a file that says something like "YOUSHOULDNTBESEEINGTHIS".
     
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    3DO discs use the string IAMADUCK to signify unused (uninitialized?) sectors on the disc, and apparently the phrase was used because the CP-V system on the Xerox Sigma 6 also used that phrase in a disk error table.
     
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    This is a great thread. I'm curious to see what else is out there. I'm sure there;s a bunch.
     
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