gameboy dot matrix question

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  1. 3rdman

    3rdman Spirited Member

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    Ok, so the DMG gameboy uses a dot matrix screen. What about it's offspring?

    Gameboy pocket?

    gameboy light?

    gameboy color?

    gameboy advance?

    gameboy advance sp?

    are any of these dot matrix or are they LCD? I dont know the difference.
     
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    All Gameboys before the Color are probably STN, after are all TFT.
     
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    I think that even the first GBA was STN. They become TFT from the GBA SP.
    But I might be wrong. :)
     
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    what is STN and TFT?
     
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    Is the original Gameboy screen at once both dot matrix and LCD?
     
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    The GameBoy screen is an LCD. It's a matrix of 160x144 dots (or pixels).
     
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    ok. so each generation of gameboy , it screen i mean, is one technology? compatable with each other (more or less).

    i could (in theory) replace a dead gb screen with a gb pocket screen? how about a gb color screen?
     
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    Just mentioning... All kinds of screens mentioned are just *subtypes* of LCD displays. So all Gameboy consoles use LCDs. It's just that early (B&W) models used the STN type of LCD.

    And "Dot Matrix Graphics" on the original GB front intended to mean that it used a matrix of dots to draw pictures instead of the fixed shapes seen on the original Game and Watch LCDs.
     
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    thank you, that's very well put. it really makes sense in the context of 1989 too.

    So I have a Gamate (1990 taiwanese reverse engineered gameboy) with a dead screen. I'd like to transplant a better screen into it, but before I do, i'd like a better understanding of the range of donor candidates. I can't think of anyreason why Gameboy Pocket or Gameboy Light wouldn't work. Does anyone think otherwise? How about gameboy color or advance?
     
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    or a neo geo pocket??
     
  12. randyrandall

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    Wouldn't they have different connectors? If the resolution is different, too, that might screw things up. I'm not an expert, but I would assume that these parts are not interchangeable- they are too different.. different power, resolution, connections, etc etc etc..
     
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    you could be right. Intuitively, it makes sense that I could swap a screen that was of higher quality, but from the same generation. If the connection is not a perfect fit, I guess it could be tinkered with. Whether any of my hunches are correct, I have no idea.
     
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    Each display could have different data deconding/latching logic.
     
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    Uh, your defiantly talking over my head. Could you give me that again in layman's terms?
     
  16. randyrandall

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    Each screen could interpret the video signal (or data) that the device generates in a different way.

    E.g. A Lynx screen will not work in a Game Boy because the Lynx generates different video data; the screen understands and utilizes different code to the Game Boy screen.
     
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    ok, I think i'm beginning to get it. Sounds like my original plan has little chance of working (I guess it ultimately depends on to what degree the hardware inside the Gamate, is ripped from a gameboy).

    Why do folks making portable versions of home consoles (like N64) have so many options when it comes to choosing a screen? PS1, dvd players, etc.?


    could one for example, put a gameboy pocket screen into a DMG gameboy?

    Are screens (like the ones being discussed) usually developed in-house ?
     
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    Because the screens used in such mods is compatible with standard TV video signals. (RGB or composite video) while screens used on portable devices (like the Gameboy or newer systems) use digital RGB or even LCD specific formats.
     
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    i wonder if anyone has ever hacked a portable's screen to make it read a signal it wasn't originally intended to read.
     
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    It depends on the video decoder the lcd has on board. Some have chips that are able to work with certain video signals, but have no connections for them.
    A good example is using s-video on a PAL psone screen.

    Basically, if the portable has a decoder that is capable of reading the signal, it is possible. If not you would have to use some sort of video conversion. Kevin Horton has done this do use a Sega Nomad for his portable nes. It's called the Portendo, look it up.
     
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