A Bunch of Saturn Dev Software

Discussion in 'Sega Saturn Programming and Development' started by tdijital, Apr 4, 2016.

  1. retro

    retro Administrator Staff Member

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    Ooh, like circuit diagrams or case designs?
     
  2. Shane McRetro

    Shane McRetro Blast Processed Since 199X. Site Patron.

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    You know you're onto a good thing when @Nemesis gets excited! :) Very good find!
     
  3. Nemesis

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    Well this is the C-Trac emulation board, which was created by Icom Simulations and simply used by the Cross Products MegaCD devkit, so it doesn't cover anything other than the CD emulation board itself. That said, yes, it includes circuit diagrams, firmware source, PLD netlists, etc. Basically everything the hardware designer had. I posted it in a not very obvious place here:
    http://assemblergames.com/l/threads...ppen-facebook-group.39733/page-20#post-679568
    Unfortunately as I mention in that post, the schematics are currently inaccessible due to being unable to find an old enough version of the CAD software the designer used. He actually asked me to email him pdf versions of them if I can ever get them to open.
     
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    Just to say that I would be interested in Saturn source stuff :)
     
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  5. tdijital

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    Hey sorry everyone, it's been a busy month for me. So honestly the guy was really certain there was Sega Saturn stuff in everything but the only Saturn related thing I found was the dev tools disc from Nov 95 but it looks as if someone already has uploaded a newer one previously.

    So most of the source was Sega MegaDrive Spiderman games (backed up with CPBackup) then what looks like a Sega CD compilation game of the Strike games (Desert Strike, Urban Strike, Jungle Strike) Then some other various older Sega games. Unfortunately the external floppy drive I was using crapped out on me mid way through checking all the old floppies out.

    There was an unreleased PSX game called Razor Wing. It was super rough though, clearly a very early build.
     
  6. retro

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    An ISO image would still be useful.

    I did say don't use an external. They're crap.

    Anyway, interesting finds! If you're able to share even some screenshots, I'm sure they'd be of interest.
     
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  7. Nemesis

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    In my experience, it doesn't matter if the FDD is external or not, it really matters when it was made. You want an old drive, be it external or internal. Anything post-2000 is probably rubbish. It used to be that a FDD had an actual metal chassis, and had the heads properly aligned in the factory. Of course, that was back when people actually used them too, and they actually cost money. When they started making FDD's for $10 with no chassis and folded tinfoil passing for a case, that's when they became crap. You know, the ones where you can't do the screws up to the proper torque in your PC case, or the pressure makes the mechanism bend out of place and a disk won't insert properly. That's mostly what they've been making for the last 15 years. The internal drives are actually the worst offenders in this in my experience.

    I have two main go-to FDD's, an internal one that's probably older than I am, with a solid steel chassis and cover plate, and a first generation USB FDD from Apple, the year they dropped internal drives. That external cost over $300 back in the day, and it's one of the best drives I've had. Still use it to this day for this kind of work.

    All that said, pretty much any 3.5" FDD, crap or not, will read a good condition disk just fine, and even the worst ones out there won't destroy them. There's no harm in using whatever's on hand. 5.25" FDD's are a whole different story, you don't want to put them into anything but a clean, reliable, tested drive, but a 3.5" disk isn't much of a bother.
     
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  8. retro

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    I sold decent floppies until about 2010. And I've seen plenty of externals destroy disks. Of course there's harm - it's a physical media. If the drive isn't aligned correctly or something shifts, it touches the media and scratches it. It's even possible to have magnetic errors cause corruption. Likewise, an old drive that's worn can be problematic.

    Cheap drives - not worth it.
     
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    So what did he find on those floppies exactly?
     
  10. AUSTIN PEYTON

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    I am really wondering about the discs with panzer dragoon saga. Could someone someday find the source code? If so then that would mean panzer dragoon saga could finally make it to a download service.

    ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º) no clue. Hopefully PDS stuff.
     
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