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ASSEMbler · 03-05-2006

SFX2 DEV SYSTEM

SUPER NINTENDO DEV SYSTEM + Super FX 1 and 2

1080Peter · 03-05-2006

Nintendo Super FX 2? Any more info about this nice set-up you can tell us? An incredible find among finds I see.

ASSEMbler · 03-05-2006

The Super Nintendo SFX2+ development system.

SFX2+ was Sculptured Software Inc.'s advanced development system for the Super Nintendo. SFX2+ has basic capabilities such as software breakpoints and Cartridge emulation. SFX2+ is self contained in the PC. No PIC interface card or external SNES is required. The SFX2+ fits in a slot within a PC. SFX2+ is a high-speed development platform for the Super Nintendo. DSP, mode 21, mode 20 and advance mode 20 are all supported. SFX2+ includes a AV-SNES and four megabytes of emulation ROM (SRAM).

This unit has been modified to provide an environment for SFX1 and SFX2 development.

A lot of things have gone through my mind, as it's fragile, and handmade.
So before I attempt to install it in a working pc, I would need a good
reason to risk using it.

There's a lot of loose SFX 2 ends. Among them is of course Starfox 2.
I've heard of people making Yoshi 2 carts into Starfox 2 carts.

So before I try to hook it up, does anyone have Starfox 2 code for me to run an play around with?
I assume I would need source (yes, feel free to laugh).

Oh yeah, here's some porn for you nintendo fans.

Kittyhawk · 03-05-2006

Awesome! ^_^

Mr. Rare · 03-05-2006

Oh that is sweet!

kholdfuzion · 03-05-2006

Thats beautiful, you said handmade, hmm... hand make your own to play with and keepthis one pristine :P

1080Peter · 03-05-2006

That 3x3 SNES square would surely make Ben Heck soil himself. Just think of the possibilities.

sayin999 · 03-05-2006

so did the comp that star fox 2 leak from use this board?

ASSEMbler · 03-05-2006

I believe starfox 2 came from a stolen ces cart?

Topic Archive · 03-05-2006

...Nice pics, thanks for sharing, I love homemade pcb work :)

babu · 03-05-2006

now you made me drool all over myself.

you lucky man.

just awesome man.

XerdoPwerko · 03-05-2006

Assembler, this is just TOO incredible to be put into words. The 3X3 Snes part, as well. Man, this is just... too much to bear. Awesomosity +100, man.

You, sir, are my idol.

Perkunas · 03-05-2006

Nice man, didn't Argonaut have something to do with SFX?

liquitt · 03-05-2006

wow thats an awesome find you got there!! thx for posting the pics

Calpis · 03-05-2006

Wait, where's the Super FX2? It doesn't sound or look as if it has one. Hidden under the SNES?

If it does have one, it's possible this was for Dirt Trax FX (by Sculptured)

Also, you certainly don't need the Star Fox 2 source to play, a de-interleaved headerless ROM will probably work.

Also, Super FX 2 essentially is a Super FX 1, only difference is how much ROM they can address. Since SFOX2 is 8M, you can use a SFX1 chip set to the high speed mode.

karsten · 03-05-2006

mmmmmmmhhhhh that microsnes.... what incredible possibilies wasted by ninty....

sayin999 · 03-05-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASSEMbler

I believe starfox 2 came from a stolen ces cart?

not from what i read, they said the guy who stole it got caught and arrested pretty fast. Sites that have talked about it and even a faq on it state that it was compiled from a computre that use to belong to agranougt. Not only that, but wasn't the ces cart in english already?

RyanGamerGoneGrazy · 03-05-2006

bloody hell......

is it possible to clean drool from a keyboard?

Ryan

g_sepp · 03-06-2006

nothing to say already been said before other than i seen a sf2 fake once before and this isn't it at all.

d4s · 03-06-2006

i think we have a slight misconception here.
this devkit was called sfx/sfx2, but that doesnt necessarily mean that it is related to the super fx in any way.
the manual copyright date indicates it was called sfx before the super fx appeared.
its working title was mario chip(as indicated on most retail starfox pcbs).
it was also called gsu (for Graphic Support processing Unit) internally.
the specs you posted dont mention anything like that.
i dont think the name super fx popped up before 1993.

what you can see on the picture is the dram (for rom emulation), a dsp1 and one of the ppus with its working ram. that means the cpu, wram, ppu2, spc, sound dsp and sound ram must be located below the small add-on board.

it may be possible that the super fx hides under that board or that you could plug another board in to add super fx support, but i somehow doubt you could run super fx games on it as it is.

a look "under the hood" would be nice. ;)

oh, and the starfox 2 picture you posted isnt from the original game. i made that logo for the english translation patch by gideon zhi and me, because i thought the original logo looked quite ugly.
old logo: http://www.keeper.novomapa.com/downl...u/starfox2.png

03-05-2006	#1
ASSEMbler Earl Grey,Hot. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,298	Discovery: SFX2+ DEV SYSTEM with Super FX 2 *SFX2 DEV SYSTEM* SUPER NINTENDO DEV SYSTEM + Super FX 1 and 2 Last edited by ASSEMbler : 03-05-2006 at 03:41 AM.

03-05-2006	#3
ASSEMbler Earl Grey,Hot. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,298	The Super Nintendo SFX2+ development system. SFX2+ was Sculptured Software Inc.'s advanced development system for the Super Nintendo. SFX2+ has basic capabilities such as software breakpoints and Cartridge emulation. SFX2+ is self contained in the PC. No PIC interface card or external SNES is required. The SFX2+ fits in a slot within a PC. SFX2+ is a high-speed development platform for the Super Nintendo. DSP, mode 21, mode 20 and advance mode 20 are all supported. SFX2+ includes a AV-SNES and four megabytes of emulation ROM (SRAM). This unit has been modified to provide an environment for SFX1 and SFX2 development. A lot of things have gone through my mind, as it's fragile, and handmade. So before I attempt to install it in a working pc, I would need a good reason to risk using it. There's a lot of loose SFX 2 ends. Among them is of course Starfox 2. I've heard of people making Yoshi 2 carts into Starfox 2 carts. So before I try to hook it up, does anyone have Starfox 2 code for me to run an play around with? I assume I would need source (yes, feel free to laugh). Oh yeah, here's some porn for you nintendo fans. __________________ "Out beyond ideas of right doing and wrong doing, there is a field. I'll meet you there." Last edited by ASSEMbler : 03-05-2006 at 03:39 AM.

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03-05-2006	#8
sayin999 ASSEMbler Hardcore Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA San Diego,CA Posts: 2,407	so did the comp that star fox 2 leak from use this board? __________________

03-05-2006	#2
1080Peter everyone knows ps3 make the best games Ranking Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern California, U.S.A. Posts: 570	Nintendo Super FX 2? Any more info about this nice set-up you can tell us? An incredible find among finds I see.

03-05-2006	#5
Mr. Rare 2009 Supporter Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 250	Oh that is sweet!

03-05-2006	#10
Topic Archive Active member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 195	...Nice pics, thanks for sharing, I love homemade pcb work :)

03-05-2006	#11
babu Mamihlapinatapai Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Country of cowards Posts: 2,887	now you made me drool all over myself. you lucky man. just awesome man. __________________ This game will make you a sociopath ++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]++++++++++[>--.+++.-<-]>--.

03-05-2006	#12
XerdoPwerko "Galaxy Angel" fanatic extreme ASSEMbler Hardcore Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Guadalajara, Mexico Posts: 2,034	Assembler, this is just TOO incredible to be put into words. The 3X3 Snes part, as well. Man, this is just... too much to bear. Awesomosity +100, man. You, sir, are my idol. __________________ Get your own Gamercard Sig.

03-05-2006	#13
Perkunas Ranking Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 635	Nice man, didn't Argonaut have something to do with SFX?

03-05-2006	#14
liquitt FANATiC ASSEMbler Elite Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Neverland Posts: 2,689	wow thats an awesome find you got there!! thx for posting the pics __________________ 言わぬが花

03-05-2006	#15
Calpis Tribuni Angusticlavii Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: .ma.us Posts: 4,644	Wait, where's the Super FX2? It doesn't sound or look as if it has one. Hidden under the SNES? If it does have one, it's possible this was for Dirt Trax FX (by Sculptured) Also, you certainly don't need the Star Fox 2 source to play, a de-interleaved headerless ROM will probably work. Also, Super FX 2 essentially is a Super FX 1, only difference is how much ROM they can address. Since SFOX2 is 8M, you can use a SFX1 chip set to the high speed mode. Last edited by Calpis : 03-05-2006 at 01:04 PM.

03-05-2006	#16
karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka Staff Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Italy Posts: 2,860	mmmmmmmhhhhh that microsnes.... what incredible possibilies wasted by ninty.... __________________ I'll create a monument to non-existance! Kefka, FFVI "there is no dark side of the Moon really... as a matter of fact it's all dark" (words hidden in pink floyd's "Eclipse" song )

03-05-2006	#18
RyanGamerGoneGrazy Clubbies Are Minis Too! Member Elite Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In The Boot Of A Mini! Posts: 1,930	bloody hell...... is it possible to clean drool from a keyboard? Ryan __________________ BSCCOC, People Against Clubman Exploitation Be Strange. Be Odd. Just BEAN.

03-06-2006	#19
g_sepp Pr0n Watcher Ranking Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: atlanta, GA Bitches Posts: 739	nothing to say already been said before other than i seen a sf2 fake once before and this isn't it at all.

03-06-2006	#20
d4s Active member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: cologne, germany Posts: 284	i think we have a slight misconception here. this devkit was called sfx/sfx2, but that doesnt necessarily mean that it is related to the super fx in any way. the manual copyright date indicates it was called sfx before the super fx appeared. its working title was mario chip(as indicated on most retail starfox pcbs). it was also called gsu (for Graphic Support processing Unit) internally. the specs you posted dont mention anything like that. i dont think the name super fx popped up before 1993. what you can see on the picture is the dram (for rom emulation), a dsp1 and one of the ppus with its working ram. that means the cpu, wram, ppu2, spc, sound dsp and sound ram must be located below the small add-on board. it may be possible that the super fx hides under that board or that you could plug another board in to add super fx support, but i somehow doubt you could run super fx games on it as it is. a look "under the hood" would be nice. ;) oh, and the starfox 2 picture you posted isnt from the original game. i made that logo for the english translation patch by gideon zhi and me, because i thought the original logo looked quite ugly. old logo: http://www.keeper.novomapa.com/downl...u/starfox2.png Last edited by d4s : 03-06-2006 at 05:08 AM.

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